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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.

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ALLIES

!abolition@slrpnk.net

!acab@lemmygrad.ml

r/ACAB

r/BadCopNoDonut/

Randy Balko

The Civil Rights Lawyer

The Honest Courtesan

Identity Project

MirandaWarning.org

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INFO

A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions

Adultification

Cops aren't supposed to be smart

Don't talk to the police.

Killings by law enforcement in Canada

Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom

Killings by law enforcement in the United States

Know your rights: Filming the police

Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)

Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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ORGANIZATIONS

Black Lives Matter

Campaign Zero

Innocence Project

The Marshall Project

Movement Law Lab

NAACP

National Police Accountability Project

Say Their Names

Vera: Ending Mass Incarceration

 

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[–] baltakatei@sopuli.xyz 4 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Criminals for wearing masks, thus denying rule of law.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

People should be running these terrorists over in these parking lots and blocking their vehicles in

you have insurance for a reason, just park in front / behind of their vehicle and walk away

[–] azureskypirate@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 day ago

The sneakers and jeans are evidence these "officers" were conscripted from the street or volunteered. Professional cops and unarmed security guards wear boots.

In Steven Pinkers book, The Better Angels of Our Nature, he describes conscripted soldiers and police as more prone to unnecessary violence and unlawful use of force.

In the video we can see one detainee forced to watch another get tased.

There is a clear lack of skill in handling the detainees. It is better to lift and lead someone by the armpits than by the arm: it avoids dislocating the arm. When done from behind, they can't hit you.

[–] DegenerationIP@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Find their names. Find their homes. Dont forget. One day this Shit ist over and people better be precise on who going Gestapostyle

[–] VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago

These masked kidnappers need to be identified and brought before true justice. And be exposed everywhere around the world as the fascist they are.

[–] manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If its anything like what happened in FDR theyll all end up with cushy jobs in government, don't hold your breath

[–] DegenerationIP@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Thats what I'm afraid of. Same Shit happened to Germany after WW2. Fascists and nazis everywhere

[–] Gork@sopuli.xyz 130 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No badge numbers, masked, using civilian vehicles with civilian plates. These guys could be literally anybody just kidnapping people.

Just goes to show the danger this precedent sets.

[–] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't understand why other people aren't dressing like ICE and showing up and getting physical with them

[–] DeceasedPassenger@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (2 children)

And why aren't you? This "other people" attitude will be, and already is, the death rattle of this shit democracy.

[–] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I live overseas 🤷🏻‍♀️

I have extremely violent fantasies about these people and I am sure that I'm not alone.

Someone could shoot out their car tires and windscreens. Someone could shoot into the air and cause them to be distracted and divert attention from their operation.

There's one long point in that video where four of them have backs to camera and the other guy is engaged on the other side of the pickup. Couldn't someone shoot them all from behind before they knew what was happening?

[–] LowtierComputer@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Most people don't want to kill other people.

[–] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

Yes of course. I am one of those people-- until recently

[–] lowleekun@ani.social 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Always remember, many people here don't live in the United Shithole.

But yes, everyone needs to resist. Sadly many people, me included, still go to work for fear of losing our livelyhood. That's is imo the biggest problem. It is hard to take direct action and risk your income when you have a bad social net (family, friends, whatever). We still will need to try.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 32 points 2 days ago

Thanks for filming this. It is important to not look away, to let them know that we protest what is happening, and keep watching their every move. Good on getting the car plates, the only thing identifiable besides their faces.

Who knows what they would've done if no-one was looking.

And good on the arrestees, some of the best passive resistance I have ever seen there.

But what gets me most is the amateurishness of the whole thing. The truck is totally unsuitable for what they're doing there, they obviously wear private clothes, their vests seem to be labeled whatever (POLICE? ORE?) and they're fucking helpless getting two guys who aren't cooperating into a truck. A hastily thrown together troupe of willing goons. It's a travesty, which just adds insult to injury.

And we literally don't know who they are. Anybody could drive up and start pulling people out of houses.

I can't express my disgust and anger - and empathy.

[–] dumbass@aussie.zone 61 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The land of the ~~free~~ facists

And the home of the ~~brave~~ weak willed racists.

[–] WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I mean apparently the racists have more will than the average arrogant privileged American.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"I WAS IN THE POOL!!!! of fascists...."

[–] dumbass@aussie.zone 9 points 2 days ago

You know ICE stands for, I Can't Ejaculate.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 11 points 2 days ago

this just sickens me. every fucking year I hate the timeline more and more.

[–] SpikedPunchVictim@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Anyone have drones we can use to dump paint on these guys as their doing this? We can harass with drones.

[–] DNS@discuss.online 14 points 1 day ago

We're fucked as a country if you think paint is gonna do anything. Slash their tires, dog pile the agents/pin them down, follow them home, and enact change. Meeting fascism with checks notes paint, will not rid of us of these traitors to the constitution.

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Is she wearing a bucees hat?

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

And an antifa bandana. I’ve been told they’re all antifa bandanas.