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[–] r@piefed.social 1 points 6 days ago

very glad to hear this!

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 83 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Glad to know privacy isn't budget friendly.

[–] Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip 91 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Unfortunately a lot of "budget" items are being subsidized by your personal information, and the smaller market for privacy-forward goods and services makes economies of scale harder.

Unless governments start passing robust privacy laws, it will just continue to get more and more expensive to live privately with modern conveniences.

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 31 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah, it would be great if they would support a range of devices from whichever OEM this is, at different price points.

[–] Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip 31 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Biggest challenge GOS has is that most hardware vendors do not meet their fairly restrictive hardware security requirements, and those few that do don't typically allow bootloader unlocking. Pixel devices up until now have been unicorns in those regards.

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[–] RedSnt 61 points 1 week ago

Oh no, won't somebody think of Google's bottom line?!

[–] root@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That’s fantastic. Does this help with the issue of Google releasing AOSP security updates at a slower cadence? Maybe working directly with an OEM resolves this?

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

I don't really know how this works, but if they have the cooperation of an OEM they should have the same access to AOSP security updates the OEM has, and access to hardware drivers from a company that's not trying to thwart them. I can see how this would be preferable to a basically antagonistic relationship with Google, who are making things difficult because they want all Pixel phones to run their stock OS. The thing I wonder is what motivates the OEM to continue a cooperative relationship with Graphene OS.

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[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They're extremely talented in the security/mobile/os arena, why not contribute to one of the Linux mobile projects and kill two birds?

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Because people want to use apps, which unfortunately don't exist on the Linux mobile projects. Banking apps are the biggest issue in fact. Obviously for a lot of other things, anyone can create alternatives.

And the whole issue of not being able to use most modern hardware with mainline Linux kernel because the drivers are closed source binary blobs. You have to use a device-specific kernels.

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[–] chisel@piefed.social 18 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Everyone out here guessing small OEMs for an official Graphene launch when it's obviously Apple.

[–] crank0271@lemmy.world 63 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Except that they mention Snapdragon, which Apple does not use.

[–] MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown@fedia.io 78 points 1 week ago (4 children)

They also mention “major Android OEM” Which does not apply to Apple.

[–] Evil_Incarnate@sopuli.xyz 30 points 1 week ago (2 children)

tinfoil hat on It's obviously Apple funding this. They know most android users won't buy apples, they just want to weaken Google.

[–] CMDR_Horn@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Could you imagine if apple created a Sub, where they made grapheneos iphones? Google would lose billions

[–] ook@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 1 week ago (7 children)

I think you are harshly overestimating how many people use GrapheneOS or even care about what it stands for.

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[–] megopie@beehaw.org 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)

… but Apple doesn’t use snapdragon SoCs?

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[–] Srootus@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I know it almost certainly isnt, but please god let it be Fairphone.

[–] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It will not be Fairphone but OnePlus

[–] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago

Only took like twenty years

[–] plz1@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I thought Google's plans to kill AOSP effectively put a nail in Graphene's coffin?

[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Google has made it harder (it may kill AOSP in the long run but not yet) by delaying public release of source trees later than before. To counter that, they partnered with OEM, who in turn are partnered with Google, who are likely to get sources faster.

[–] Danitos@reddthat.com 12 points 1 week ago (9 children)

I still don't how they (and F-Droid) plan to bypass the whole de al with Google killing non-PlayStore aproved© apps, tho. GrapheneOS relies on that as well.

[–] eatham@aussie.zone 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That doesn't apply to grapheneos as they don't license gms

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[–] CovfefeKills@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It does make sense it would be Nothing. I feel like the CEO reads the Youtube comments asking for GOS

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[–] Zier@fedia.io 13 points 1 week ago (4 children)

It's America, it's going to be Samsung.

[–] waldo_was_here@piefed.social 31 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Nope , Motorola has snapdragon and you can unlock OEM

[–] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago (5 children)

My $$ was on moto as well - it's already about the closest thing to stock and they probably need the boost.

Whereas Samsung is fucking worlds apart for actual android

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[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I hope so, I love samsung's hardware and having a secure OS option to get out from under their godawful UI / OS stuff would be amazing.

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