Woe to the vanquished !!
the names of our heros, and our defiers, will last forever !!
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The only reason we have 5 day work weeks, 8 hour workdays, overtime pay, benefits, workplace health/safety/environmental regulations, unions, health care, paid time off, vacations, etc. is because our grandfathers and great-grandfathers busted heads, and got their own heads busted, fighting corporate goons in the streets - and WINNING!
Those heroic workers would be ashamed at what their grandchildren have let the Sociopathic Oligarchs have done to America. They fought hard to keep those psychopaths under control, and we not only let them up, we helped them take full power.
grandfathers busted heads, and got their own heads busted, fighting corporate goons in the streets - and WINNING!
No one won anything. The massive militant strike actions in the USA in the early 20th century usually were losses. Wins tended to be pyrrhic, with the company cleaning house a couple months later or simply reversing the won benefits.
Things were brought to a head by the depression. The solution was simple, the most militant leaders were arrested, reforms were done to buy off the less militant, and the anger was channeled into marching all of us off to war (with the support of the non-militant collaborationist unions, of course).
Except that in the end, we still have the 8 hour workday/ 40 hour work week, overtime, benefits, etc. None of those things existed before the labor riots, so things didn't get rolled back as much as you claim, and the most important ones stuck permanently.
The Labor Riots were extremely successful, and completely reconfigured the American workplace for the rest of the century, and beyond. MAGA wants to revert to the old days.
Yup. Poor MAGA thinks they'll get 2 hour work weeks if they went back to the good old days.
The truth is that they whites will all be working the fields again without holiday, cheap medical aid, and so on.
A lot of them think they'll be slave owners again. I'm sure there are a few yokels who think the day is coming when they can just go grab the nearest black neighbor and declare him their property, and force him to get to work in the fields. After all, that was the original reason those Africans CHOSE to come to America ILLEGALLY right?
Well, he's got a trailer, so maybe he just makes his new slave pick up the house, make the bed, and wash the truck.
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I think it’s worth pointing out that calling these riots isn’t really appropriate. When we think of riots, we think of unfocused, unplanned, unmanaged, etc. Highly organized protests sometimes wind up turning into riots because capitalists use violence, but it’s not the norm.
Super This:
Organized, non-violent protests are not riots. They are people, in mass, using their freedom of speech to complain about something.
A common issue is that some people, either within the protest group, or outside instigators, will then prod the protest into violence in order to discredit it. Two examples:
- Police using rubber bullets/tear-gas/pepper-spray to disperse a lawful gathering. This escalates and adds tension. Not everyone is prepared to weather abuse to stay non-violent. Gassing a peaceful protest is going to make at least some of them really mad and is a pretty trivial way to turn a peaceful protest into something else and remove it's message, making it just a "riot."
- Agitators claiming to be within the group, but who are actually against, it performing actions such as property damage or violence in order to discredit the whole event. If a non-violent march is walking down a street and some dick throws a rock through a store window and steals something, the whole march is called a riot by the media.
It's important that if you are involved in a protest that you stay calm despite what is thrown your way. The protest is the message and fighting back during that event is only harming your message. Please do things like capture pictures/videos of people inciting violence, of police using crowd control on peaceful protesters, of generic unfair treatment; but during that event, the goal is to be calm. Afterwards, you can take all your grievances to the medias. If you've been harmed during a protest, find a lawyer -- many will work pro-bono for cases like this and if your first pick doesn't... fuck 'em: Name and shame -- and then fight back after the event, when you have legal standing.
Your grievances are real. Your pain is real. The people in power will use every trick to discredit your issues. Don't give them ammo.
Labor movements in the 19 th and early 20th centuries also literally organized riots, where the express purpose was to destroy property. It used to be a legitimate protest strategy against the owning class.
Why is this yellowed like it's been in a smokers house for the last 15 years?
Sepia tone is the JPG artifacts of the past
Someone spilled water on their phone and now the meme is moldy
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Violence isn't the answer!
The answer is.. checks history book
wait not that one.. starts flipping pages
uhh if you hang on a second uhh furious page-flipping
This is literally every country.
"OUR REVOLUTIONARIES WERE HEROES"
But also: "Don't y'all even dare thinking about overthrowing the current system. Violence Baaad!"
The Internet has made people too easy to divide and conquer
I'm suddenly reminded of this quote:
“Meanwhile, the poor Babel fish, by effectively removing all barriers to communication between different races and cultures, has caused more and bloodier wars than anything else in the history of creation.”
-- Douglas Adams in Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy
Phhh that’s exactly the kind of behaviour I’d expect with a user from leminal.space!
Bahh! Bloody Trekkies stirring the pot as usual, go back to your Spock Base and phase some Vulconions!
Yep. Creating division amongst the common class, so they fight each other, instead of those in power who are the real criminals.
Has this been aged? Lol looks like sepia
Yes, because it's long been true and people didn't fucking listen. Now my country doesn't even really have liberal democracy, and people are still himing and hawing about disruption being bad and lawbreaking being bad
I was just trying to make a pithy joke about the discoloring
Cursed
The most sociopatic "winners" of the current system will always laud whatever was done to establish the system in which they get so much and decry anything that might overthrow or even meaningfully change that system.
Those who have a more empathic view of things, even when they too are considered "winners", have a different posture if they think the current system isn't working well for most people because they don't think only about personal upside maximization at any cost for the rest.
As it so happens, caring for more than just "me, me, me" is what distinguishes leftwingers from rightwingers.
So this is a great way to spot fake leftwingers in or seeking positions of power and wealth: no matter how "progressive" their words are in general, when it comes to the current system they'll display exactly this kind of hypocrisy of being against any kind of actions that will change the current system whilst lauding the very same kind of actions when they installed the current system, since their one true drive is "What's in it for me", a rightwinger's motivation.
Reasonable men adapt themselves to their environment; unreasonable men try to adapt their environment to themselves. Thus all progress is the result of the efforts of unreasonable men.
Are USians not still working 10 hours day/6 days a week? The USA are usually near the top of the "time worked per week" OECD rankings.
Also, interesting how the poster and first replier have the same avatar. Is that a historical figure?
The desperation and work culture of believing we can just slave away into success are what keeps people from rocking the boat. Faith in being able to win the game is how we got here.
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Violence is the only answer, and until youre ready for that nothing will change. Extreme violence is the only answer.
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The State only respects power. If a group of people show that they have more power than the State, change can happen. However, what is power?
Power comes in many different forms.
There is economic power which is showcased through strikes and boycotts.
There is democratic power which is showcased through the ballot box.
There is soft power which is showcased through the lobbying, and speeches.
There is non-violet power which is showcased through protests, marches, and sit ins.
There is violent power which is showcased through physical violence such riots.
While, the populace has access to many different forms of power. The State is limited to either soft power or violent power. Depending on the State, soft power might not even be contemplated.
Riots are just one form of power for the populace to exercise.
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Remember to thank your local anarchist for the 8 hour work day.
Personally I wish they'd rioted a bit more because frankly I'm usually done by about 1:00 p.m.
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You've got to seize the means of production, of course in the US that means getting on a plane.
Global capitalism makes seizing the means of production a global effort no matter where you are, which is why nationalism is main the tool for maintaining capitalism
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