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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 78 points 23 hours ago (6 children)

Just like the internet, don't fall for it. They're constantly trying to get people to be violent.

We have to do this peacefully. Not because of some moral high ground, but because that's what they want so they can take over our cities and kill their "enemies."

[–] ooterness@lemmy.world 55 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 16 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I see what they're saying, but they haven't gone to mass murdering out in the open yet.

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 24 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

And if they don't face real threats and consequences, they'll continue inching closer and closer to that goal.

[–] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 8 points 21 hours ago

Well many seem to think that 'real threats' includes smashing fashion store windows and throwing bricks at lackeys in uniforms. Performative violence is just story building material for those who control the narrative.

Effective violence is directed surgically at assets, or at processes and procedures. That means sabotage that costs the oligarchs and not small business, vandalism that makes you think, disruption of the trickle up effect, and personal fear for individuals ONLY after the other escalations.

Of course in the USA the ammosexuals are pushing cart before horse and people are dying for the news cycle.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works -2 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Are you out there putting your life on the line, right now, at a protest? I haven't heard of anyone going after anyone physically, so you're probably not. Telling others to "dO soMEthIng!" isn't brave.

[–] TaterTot@piefed.social 22 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I am at a protest right now, and it feels a lot more like a parade than "putting my life on the line".

I fully agree with your points tbh, but I don't want to scare people away either.

Seriously, it's been pretty fun out here, everyone should come join!

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works -2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Seriously, it’s been pretty fun out here, everyone should come join!

I don't think I was clear about what I was saying, I completely agree with this. When I say "put your life on the line," I mean start doing the violence they're encouraging, *and take their own risks, not because it's violent at the protests.

[–] its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Our protest ended an hour ago, and my friend was assaulted by a trump supporter. No serious injuries, but is that enough to pass your purity test?

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works -4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

No, what did you do about it? Did you do the things the original guy is encouraging?

[–] its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

What did he encourage? Seems like you're the one handing down proclamations.

I wasn't there when the assault happened, but I helped make the organizers aware. If I had been there I would have clocked him in the side of the head with my protest sign.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I think you're confusing what I'm saying. I'm saying to stop promoting violence. And that the people who are promoting violence, are telling others to do it, while watching from the sidelines. Those people are cowardly instigators.

[–] its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 21 hours ago

We have to do this peacefully. Not because of some moral high ground, but because that's what they want so they can take over our cities and kill their "enemies."

I disagree with this mentality. They are going to do what they want regardless. You're saying we should prioritize not being the scape goat in favor of what exactly? They're already going to scapegoat us.

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 2 points 21 hours ago

Obviously not; I wouldn't be posting here if I were. I wouldn't encourage spontaneous violence at protests either. There's more ways to have consequences than just violence though. Simply closing off streets in downtown business districts could be part of that, although not sure how doing these on a few hours on a single day on a weekend would contribute do much - still better than what I'm doing with my day. Weekdays would be far more disruptive. Especially since a lot of people would have to skip work to go (of course I'm a hypocrite on this given I'm skipping today because I'm at work). But yeah; I'm a coward who certainly wouldn't actually commit any violence even if I'm though I think what happened to United's CEO was cool. And I don't think many other people have been pushed to the point where they'd consider that a viable option. Nor do I think many people in the US would be willing to be disruptive in other ways (such as general strikes). So I expect things to get worse, regardless of the behavior of protestors today.

[–] Weirdfish@lemmy.world 10 points 19 hours ago

Was at multiple events through out the day in burbs north of Chicago. Nothing but relaxed peaceful people waving signs and honking horns.

[–] midribbon_action@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 23 hours ago

I don't give a shit what they want. They are fascist; their opinion of us is literally of no importance to me and will not affect my actions in the slightest. I will act in an ethical manner to the best of my ability at all times.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 7 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Understand that it won’t matter. They will find a way to make it fit the narrative and do exactly what they are planning to do, even if this somehow ends up being the most peaceful protest of all time.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 10 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

These movements will only be effective with wide public support, though, and if they’re able to loop footage of protesters ‘being violent’, public support will collapse.

Even when they provoke us, we need to remain as peaceful as possible, not because doing otherwise will incite more violence from them, but because we need it to be obvious that the violence is entirely one-sided and unwarranted.

They’re already lying about us – we can’t verify their lies.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 2 points 21 hours ago
[–] humanamerican@lemmy.zip 8 points 23 hours ago

It still matters. A video of peaceful protestors being abused by cops/soldiers/ICE is powerful, and even with all the corporate media in Trump's pocket, those types of videos still get seen.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 0 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

This is the dumbest goddamn take.

They already told you, “the revolution will be bloodless if the left allows it to be.”

You’re allowing it to be.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I almost think they’re right wing astro turfers at this point.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 0 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

LMAO, because everyone knows that republicans are promoting peace.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 3 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

“And so I come full circle on this response and just want to encourage you with some substance that we are in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be.”

  • Project 2025 and Heritage Foundation President Kevin Roberts

Yes they want to take over without a fight. You are trying to make us give them what they want.

They do not need you to act violent to paint you as violent to their followers. They already believe these cities are lawless warzones, despite overwhelming visual evidence to the contrary. This is the post-truth era.

[–] veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 22 hours ago

Sure thing, clanker.

[–] klammeraffe@lemmy.cafe 26 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

It’s important to be “aggressive” on days they don’t tell you to be aggressive. And, when you are aggressive, don’t label it, just do it and don’t tell anyone.

Even ICE cars don’t like sugar 💋

[–] MOARbid1@piefed.social 1 points 19 hours ago

I’ve always wanted to try Orbeez.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Joe Walsh should know. After all, he lives in hotels, tear out the walls, has accountants pay for it all ....

[–] boydster@sh.itjust.works 10 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

They say he's crazy, but he has a good time!

[–] Nusm@peachpie.theatl.social 6 points 22 hours ago

Yeah, there was that time he did 185 in his Maserati.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 3 points 22 hours ago

This sounds like a trump quote.

[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 10 points 23 hours ago

Any reports of violence? I haven't seen any today

Lol my most local one was peaceful af this morning. Womp womp.

[–] etherphon@midwest.social 2 points 23 hours ago

Business as usual then.