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This does unfortunately happen multiple times per day. Sometimes it’s smaller incidents where the tram driver can get out and collapse the car’s mirror. Other times the owner of the car comes out of a nearby house after the tram used its bell extensively (like today) and moves the car. And then there are times when police needs to get involved to tow the car which often takes upwards of 1 hour.

The truly infuriating part is that if the tram damages a poorly parked car, the transportation company will have to pay the damages. Poorly parked vehicles never get fined and the owners will only need to pay if the car ends up getting towed.

Why do we accept that drivers sabotage a city’s public transport infrastructure like this?

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[–] Ironfist79@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Tram should be allowed to ram them.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 2 points 1 day ago

Armour the front of the trams and let slip the dings of war.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

As a car guy (yes I know where I am - I don't live in a city though), idiots like this make no sense to me.

If you enjoy driving, you should in fact be in favor of public transit. It means less traffic, makes driving nicer. Even if you're 100% self-absorbed, you should still be supportive of public transit.

[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Welcome to the war on cars, car guy.

But legit this take makes so much sense. The whole point of the war on cars is that we all have options that meet our needs. People who need to take cars, due to distance or disability can, because the roads are clearer with others taking transit, walking or biking. Multi-modal transit benefits car people as much as it does everyone else.

[–] Ostrichgrif@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

As a car enjoyer the world would be a significantly better place if the people who didn't want to drive cars didn't have to. Most of my frustrations driving are caused by too many people on the roads and people that clearly could give less of a shit about driving a vehicle but have no other option. All my friends in the car community are in agreement on that

[–] bier@feddit.nl 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You're bi and that's totaly okay! I also like my car and enjoy decent public transportation and walkable cities.

[–] flippinfreebird@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

New bi pride just dropped

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 23 points 1 day ago

In Amsterdam they just drive on and push the car off the tracks lmao.

[–] Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think this is more fuck shitty drivers/parkers, than it is fuck cars. You can have a car, and not park like an asshole. Shit like this, needs to be ticketed HARD. Like "If you block the tram/bus lane, you WILL be fined FROM(not upto) £1000 per minute that the tram/bus is delayed.". If people cant park properly on their own, fuck um. Make them do it in the way they will feel. If you want to get the rich assholes, gauge the fine by post code. The better the post code, the higher the starting point of the fine.

[–] Malfeasant@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I mean, it's only fair. Responsible cyclists are expected to answer for the behavior of shitty cyclists, motor or pedal regardless, why should cars and their drivers get a pass?

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

IMO, as a driver, tow them. There should be a city ordnance in place that as soon as a tram needs to stop because of a poorly parked vehicle, they call for a tow immediately. If you get back to your car before the tow truck shows up, you can avoid being towed by simply getting the fuck out of the way. If not, good luck idiot.

There should be zero tolerance for this kind of fuckary.

[–] bier@feddit.nl 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I don't know about your city, but getting towed away can cost you between 150 and 500 (diffent in every city) plus the fine (parking on a tram lane) 120 plus about 25 for every night your car is not picked up. So people avoid that.

When I just got my drivers license I came home one night and found a free parking spot, felt like the last one. When I needed my car about a week later it was gone. Went to the police to report it as stolen, turned out it was towed. I accidentally parked on a reseved spot that you are not allowed to park in. Pretty dumb but it was an honest mistake. The fine was about twice what I earned a month from my partime job as a student. It really sucked, but it was a good lesson.

[–] SektorC@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 2 days ago (15 children)

The city of St. Gallen in Switzerland simply charges CHF 20 per minute that the tram is blocked. (21€ / $25) https://www.srf.ch/news/zug-blockiert-falschparken-kostet-20-franken-pro-minute

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

No mercy. Call police, get them towed and fined. And tow them to the most remote impound lot possible.

[–] Bloefz@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Whoa and that in Germany where people are pretty law-abiding.

[–] Ougie@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Yes but they simply don't know how to park. My apartment used to oversee a parking lot and a relatively narrow two-way road with cars parked either side and I've seen everything 😂

Even professional drivers with trucks etc that you'd think would know the dimensions of their vehicle... It was so fun to watch them struggle when a car would come from the other direction and when there was heaps of space for both to pass, or watching them trying to maneuver into an amply spaced parking spot lol

I can tell you these people wouldn't last a day in southern Europe or south east Asia where you need to be precise 😂😂

[–] Pechente@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago

Not when it comes to cars

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

No. Germany is the car nation of Europe.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 40 points 2 days ago (5 children)

People keep doing it because they get away with it.

Put a cow-catcher on the front, like the old-timey trains, and roll those cars out of the way. Make sure that it gets covered heavily in the media, with cars left on their sides and roofs.

The scofflaws will get the message really quick, and stop it.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (5 children)

This is the way. Its like how fireman handle someone parking in front of a hydrant. They go through the car with fire axes. The persons doing it deserve it.

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[–] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 32 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The fact that the drivers aren't fined is what's most wild to me. Where I live they fine the everliving fuck out of you if you park somewhere you're not supposed to.

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[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 28 points 2 days ago

Slap a cow catcher on the front of those trams and blast those mfers out of the way. Park on the tracks at your own risk assholes.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 33 points 2 days ago

Trams should operate on fire truck rules.

You don't need a fine, per se, you just get billed for the repairs after it rams your vehicle out of the way.

[–] Mk23simp@lemmy.blahaj.zone 257 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The lack of a fine for that is insane.

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[–] Microw@piefed.zip 32 points 2 days ago (2 children)

In Vienna, over the last decade the authorities have removed hundreds of parking spots like this where cars repeatedly blocked the tram. Now, the number of times it happens is very low, since the spots that remain should be very easy to Park in a way that doesnt block

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[–] arin@lemmy.world 83 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 158 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (16 children)

This is mainly an enforcement problem. If the city simply towed every car that did this, this sort of shit would stop immediately. But of course nobody wants to hurt the precious little feefees of car drivers because they're very very special little snowflakes.

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[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 39 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Big fine + towed car. Even those car brains will learn.

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