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[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 14 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

This sounds like an attempt to prevent black people from owning guns, in the same way a marijuana conviction has kept them from owning dispensaries.

I know white people smoke pot, but they don’t usually try to make laws to keep white people down in the same way.

[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The case in front of SCOTUS is not about implementing a new restriction. It is about if a long standing restriction on the unrelated use of controlled substances is a Constitutional violation. Weed is grabbing the headline, but the restriction applies to a vast range of substances.

[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 1 points 14 minutes ago

Thank you for the clarification. I read this when I was half asleep.

[–] tomenzgg@midwest.social 2 points 7 hours ago

I'm inclined to entirely agree though the abject hypocrisy (I know, par for the course of conservatives) will be through the roof if the individuals who staked their entire personality on "we can't restrain gun ownership in any remote way because the plain-text of the constitution" find pot usage to be the only acceptable background check.

[–] AlDente@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 hours ago

You are exactly right in how this law has been used. However, this case is looking to overturn that and set a precidedent for allowing marijuana users to own guns.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 12 points 9 hours ago

TBF, I think the people smoking pot should be the ONLY ones allowed to have guns, much more laid back.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

They can have it once it's empty.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Great, they'll prohibit it, and then we'll have a lot of stressed out gun owners.

[–] AlDente@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 hours ago

It's already prohibited. This case is aiming to change that and permit marijuana users to own guns.

[–] Macallan@lemmy.world 15 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

What if I irregularly smoke pot?

[–] BadmanDan@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

Only can own ARs then

[–] Tire@lemmy.ml 5 points 9 hours ago

Like upside down? Or in a funny hat?

[–] BadmanDan@lemmy.world -3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I’ll take any form of gun control at this point

[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

The case is not about implementing new gun control, but looking at if an aspect of existing control is unconstitutional.

[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Watch as the GOP takes away gun rights from a sizable portion of their own pot smoking, 2A glazing base... and none will waiver their support.

Like clockwork, they get mad for all of 3 seconds, then they remember the GOP is leading the genocide against brown people and LGBTQ+ people, then they forget anything happened at all.

[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I wish people would read the articles. Weed is already Federally prohibited. The case is an attempt to overturn that.

[–] AlDente@sh.itjust.works 6 points 21 hours ago

It's already illegal. This is a challenge to restore those rights.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Pot snokers may be on the fence about you coming for their guns, but gun owners are gonna get real mad about you coming for their weed

[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

The case is about overturning existing prohibitions. Reading the article would clarify this.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

snokers

IS THERE SOME WAY OF IMBIBING WEED THAT I AM NOT AWARE OF AND WHAT IS IT

[–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 9 hours ago

Snoking is like smoking but with an enya.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 2 points 9 hours ago

Oh you ain't ready to snoke yet my son

[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 57 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Feels like alcohol should be higher in priority over weed when it comes to anger issues

[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

This case is not about imposing new restrictions.

[–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 9 hours ago

Logically, yes, but this court doesn't need logic where it is going...

[–] Grumpyleb@lemmus.org 18 points 1 day ago

recovering alcoholic here who has had guns, this comment is spot on. I smoke pot as well, never had an issue when high, but have been stupid with guns while drunk.

[–] LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Came here for this: which of the substances makes you more likely to play Russian roulette?

The amount of accidents with guns and blood alcohol concentration must be fairly high.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

One of the biggest potheads I know is a right wing trumpet with TONS of guns. The irony would be pretty sweet I gotta say.

[–] bobaworld@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think you're a little mixed up. It is currently illegal for a regular pot smoker to own guns. The supreme court is looking at potentially getting rid of that restriction. So if they did, I think it would actually reenforce your friend's love of Trump.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Fuck, I clearly only read the headline and inferred that they’d be looking for an excuse to take guns seat in states where it’s legal (mostly but not all bluer states).

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

And to add more to this, the plaintiff is from Texas.

Scotus will likely overturn this

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago

I very much doubt it was doing much to help anyway. The rich fuckers who can afford both guns and weed are gonna do it either way.

[–] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 117 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (13 children)

They're just trying to find other ways to take guns from leftists and trans people.

Also, since pot is federally illegal, and legal states don't normally give the feds buyer info, how the hell would they even know? A form asking if you smoke pot? What stops someone from just saying they don't?

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 76 points 2 days ago (14 children)

A form asking if you smoke pot?

Yes, that's exactly what already happens. The form in question is ATF 4473 for purchasing a firearm, and it is a federal crime to lie on that form. As far as the ATF is concerned, it does not matter if weed has been legalized in your state or not, or if it's for medicinal purposes or recreational.

As of now, you cannot own a firearm if you are "an unlawful user of, or addicted to" pot or any other banned substance. This has rarely been enforced, and it's hard to bring enough evidence to actually prove it. Were they a user when they bought it? A user an hour later? A month later? How do you even prove that in court?

The few times it's been prosecuted, it's usually one thing in a pile of more serious charges.

If the Supremes rule against it, then it's just the status quo. Nobody can really prove it. There is some reason to think they'll strike this down.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

How is this legal? Even as someone who knows much tighter gun control would save thousands of lives, if they haven’t been committed then it doesn’t matter.

If they have been committed, then it would be legal/fair, although I might disagree

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 8 hours ago

It's legal because that's what the law says. Arguably unconstitutional, but that's what bringing it to the Supreme Court is supposed to be for. Nobody has really pushed this in front of the courts before.

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[–] discosnails@lemmy.wtf 4 points 1 day ago

Far out man.

[–] bobaworld@lemmy.world 50 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The way the law works currently it's just a mechanism to remove gun rights from people and to tack on extra bullshit charges to anyone who happens to get caught with a little weed and also owns guns. Sincerely hope they can actually change this law because it is almost entirely used for bullshit.

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[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 35 points 1 day ago (3 children)

NO ONE IN THIS COMMENT SECTION READ PAST THE HEADLINE.

Everyone here is assuming they're trying to outlaw this. It is already outlawed. They're looking to overturn it.

[–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 8 hours ago

Everyone here is assuming they’re trying to outlaw this. It is already outlawed. They’re looking to overturn it.

WHO is trying to overturn it? Did YOU read the article?

Remember that the supreme court often picks up a case after a back and forth, and that the previous ‘last stop’ of the case helps determine what’s going on. The previous court had voided the law, and now dump and co. are trying to revive the case. So if the supreme court was fine with ‘legalizing it’ they could have done so by dint of letting the lower court’s ruling lie. Maybe, just maybe, the supreme court is doing what it is supposed to do when lower courts disagree with each other on rulings, but let's be honest, do you think this supreme court cares about anything but helping the conservative pushes? If it gets more laws that can be used against non-wasps, they'll slap down some ai generated bullshit faster than thomas can get in an rv.

[–] spacesatan@leminal.space 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm hoping it's mostly europeans, I feel like most americans with any exposure to gun culture should already know about this being illegal.

[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

A surprising amount of people don't understand that if they live in a state where weed is legal that doesn't mean Federal laws on it don't apply.

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