One of the biggest potheads I know is a right wing trumpet with TONS of guns. The irony would be pretty sweet I gotta say.
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Feels like alcohol should be higher in priority over weed when it comes to anger issues
Came here for this: which of the substances makes you more likely to play Russian roulette?
The amount of accidents with guns and blood alcohol concentration must be fairly high.
recovering alcoholic here who has had guns, this comment is spot on. I smoke pot as well, never had an issue when high, but have been stupid with guns while drunk.
Can't wait to send this to the weed smoking chud I know. Also they gonna throw out Hunter Biden's criminal conviction?
People who regularly smoke weed should not own guns. Neither should anyone else. Sincerely, every developed nation.
If everyone else gets guns, then weed smokers get guns too, otherwise it's a very convenient way to selectively apply gun restrictions to specific groups of people.
yeah, i agree the disparity is shit. there is no legitimate reason to treat weed smokers differently. if you were to use a gun in self defence, say, i can understand that whether you were impaired at the time might be PART of the legal picture, but that notion should apply evenly to everyone, irrespective of the drug. like you said, it is just another tool for targeted enforcement.
After smoking, I’d be too scared to even look at my gun, let alone use it.
Nah, guns are cool and fun.
Funny thing is, i agree. i used to like going to the range, shooting clay pigeons, etc. handguns are tightly controlled in my country, but i imagine i would like them too if i ever got to use one. i still don’t think just everyone should have one, though, because the societal price is too high to justify.
So is weed.
Smoking pot should be mandatory. Some people need to calm down, mellow out.
I hope they decide they can. That said the entire corpus of the Roberts court still needs thrown out
The way the law works currently it's just a mechanism to remove gun rights from people and to tack on extra bullshit charges to anyone who happens to get caught with a little weed and also owns guns. Sincerely hope they can actually change this law because it is almost entirely used for bullshit.
the gop hardon for weed+jailtime, to feed into the forprofit system, in order to get kickbacks plus use the prison population as part of the census.
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Everyone here is assuming they're trying to outlaw this. It is already outlawed. They're looking to overturn it.
I'm hoping it's mostly europeans, I feel like most americans with any exposure to gun culture should already know about this being illegal.
The assessment should consider ALL mind altering substances the gun owner consumes. Beer, weed, medications. Self-reporting isn't great, but better than nothing.
They're just trying to find other ways to take guns from leftists and trans people.
Also, since pot is federally illegal, and legal states don't normally give the feds buyer info, how the hell would they even know? A form asking if you smoke pot? What stops someone from just saying they don't?
A form asking if you smoke pot?
Yes, that's exactly what already happens. The form in question is ATF 4473 for purchasing a firearm, and it is a federal crime to lie on that form. As far as the ATF is concerned, it does not matter if weed has been legalized in your state or not, or if it's for medicinal purposes or recreational.
As of now, you cannot own a firearm if you are "an unlawful user of, or addicted to" pot or any other banned substance. This has rarely been enforced, and it's hard to bring enough evidence to actually prove it. Were they a user when they bought it? A user an hour later? A month later? How do you even prove that in court?
The few times it's been prosecuted, it's usually one thing in a pile of more serious charges.
If the Supremes rule against it, then it's just the status quo. Nobody can really prove it. There is some reason to think they'll strike this down.
The ambiguity serves their cause. I expected for them to give a vague ruling that keeps people worried. The nazis running the government want fear, uncertainty, and doubt because it makes people easier to control. This ruling will be "Sure, go ahead, we prob won't disappear you and your family for no reason at all, trust us, and stay in line"
it is a federal crime to lie on that form
But are you really lying when you think or feel you're answering truthfully?
I.e., what is regular? Once a month? Once a week? These seem more "occasional" than "regular". And even at 3+ times per week, in "regular" territory, what if you stop?
Are you still a regular smoker if you've been clean for a month? Two months? Three or four? Six or a year?
Of course, this is all under the assumption they don't just get ICE'd or Venezuela-boated.
I think the answer lies in the Hunter Biden charges. They can ask the question when purchasing a firearm and then charge with a crime later if they can show that the person lied.
Honestly wouldn't be shocked if they started going after recreational marijuana either. Some big liberal states have legal marijuana.
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the question on the form is not temporally bound; it asks if you are currently using. i read it as “are you smoking while filling the form out?”
the answer is always “no.”
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This is already the law, they are actually looking to overturn it. Despite having used it to prosecute Hunter Biden.
Yeah, makes sense from that perspective.
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Wonderful, set precedent that the 2nd amendment is totally subject to the whim of the president. Then let's flip all of government in 2028 and work on fixing this gun problem once and for all.
i’m all for better gun laws, and I speak as someone who owns multiple and yet still does not trust the 2nd amendment anyway. I think we should be reminding folks that “amendments” don’t mean shit, and we need legit common sense laws.
and a separation of concerns when it comes to what a gov can and cannot do. eg: laws won’t stop ppl from owning guns, but mental health/healthcare WILL stop people from causing harm.
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Aren't the pot smokers more mellow and less likely to fight/shoot/kill someone. I think drinkers stand a better chance of violence. How about we leave both groups alone. Case closed ... next?
they should be the worry about the cocaine and meth users.
I think the issue should be pretty cut and dry. You can drink as often as you want and own guns. You can't go out shooting while you're drinking. You should be able to smoke whenever you want as long as you're not inebriated when you're shooting.
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Notice how they don't go after those who regularly do Ketamine or the Cokeheads sauntering the halls of the WH at any given hour.
pure cocaine is often done by upper middle class and rich people, coke is for the poors. ketamine for people like musk.
lol. so many rural gun owners smoke pot. the stereotype is a urban youth but it is so common in rural areas.
ATF form 4473 question 11(e) asks:
Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance? [my bold]
Are you. Right at the moment you are checking the box, are you an unlawful user ...?
Caffeine and nicotine are stimulants.
Are you ... addicted to ... any ... stimulant ... ?
I'm gonna take a shot in the dark here and guess that they'll completely forget about the historical precedent test that they just randomly pulled out of their ass, but only when it comes to drugs, queer people, and leftists.
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