Poisoning? Really?
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Healthcare nomenclature is moving away from "opioid overdose" to "opioid poisoning". This is partly to do with stigma related to substance use- overdose can feel like it assigns blame "well if they just dosed correctly....". Also, poisoning is more accurate if you consider the fact that many street drugs have impurities, and unless you are having your drugs tested or testing them yourself, you can't be sure that you are taking the "correct" dose (or even what you are taking at all).
I put did not put "correct" in quotations to stigmatize, but rather to highlight that there isn't an established correct dose for street drugs. Correct in this case would mean to desired effect, and I understand why people choose to self-medicate so please don't take offense. Be safe out there!
Probably alcohol poisoning.
Just saying.
If you can make it to 45 without killing yourself then you’re rewarded with cancer.
Usually from all the poison you ingested that didn’t kill you
I only have a few more years until I cross that threshold.
Looking forward to the melanoma.
And by that I mean that I hate everything about it. :)
Around that age, you start cooking for yourself
Food poisoning, overdose, severe allergic reaction, medication conflict
I wonder if that includes drug overdoses.
I guess that’s poisoning.
Also high velocity lead poisoning to the brain.
Well the cancer didn't take me at 45, so lets go heart disease!
It gets us all eventually.
If you are in the US, and under roughly 20, the actual leading cause of death is firearms, been like that for the past 5 or 6 years.
https://www.cnn.com/health/guns-death-us-children-teens-dg
Thats from about 6 months ago.
You may also note that the article's source at CDC:
https://wonder.cdc.gov/controller/datarequest/D158;jsessionid=63943AC0B45AD52893397A22A027
No longer works, because this information is inconvenient for the current administration of " "pro-life" ", violence loving fascists.
Scientific American, from 2022, has this same trend, but extending the age bracket all the way up to age 24.
Firearms also pop back up over 65 because after a lifetime of fighting the evils of socialism, old Americans end up poor in medical debt and pop themselves. they even believe it's their own fault.
But of course if they didn't have guns everything would be fine.
Also, I'm pretty sure the CDC has been outright banned from even studying the public health effects of firearm availability.
Yeah, that probably happened already.
Yeah like 20 years ago
Ah you see the fire arms have reduced traffic deaths! This is a good thing. Everyone should solve their issues with the car before or after them with some kind of fire arm. I vote for rocket launchers to be bought for this purpose.
On that train of thought I realllyyy wish that graph had total deaths on it for a more accurate picture of if they decreased or increased... Because it just makes it look like the deaths stayed the same and the other factors are all that is changing
From the second, Scientific American link:
Thats per capita, per 100,000 people, so, not a percentage of all deaths per year... though this is counting ages 1 to 24, and goes only up to 2020.
So... assuming 2020 US population is 330 million, and there are... I dunno uh...
https://buckystats.org/one/US/years?data=perc-by-age-24
Apparently ~31% under 25 yo.
So, ~ 102.3 million under 25 ... multiply by about 1023 to go from per capita to actual...
~ 10,515 firearm caused mortalities in 2020 amongst under 25 yos
~ 8,501 motor vehicle caused mortalities in 2020 amongst under 25 yos
There ya go, thats some napkin math.
Overall total is ~19,106, but that is of course only for the top two causes, firearms + cars, leaves out everything else.
Also... they are in this graph doing an age based standardization of all death rates, so... that will throw off this kind of calc I've just done, I'd have to have the actual numbers and do actual math to account for that.
From here:
https://buckystats.org/one/US/years?data=mort-perc-by-age-24
Under 25s in 2020 had 628 per Million deaths, so that works out to ~ 64,275 actual deaths.
Also I should clarify that for all this, its 1 to 24, not 25 and under, 1 and under is all classed as infant mortality and is its own thing, so my population proportions will be a bit off from that number not making that distinction...
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs//data/nvsr/nvsr72/nvsr72-10.pdf
Ah ok, page 15, 19,582 total infant deaths in 2020, so, take that out of 64,275 and you get ~ 44,693 1 - 24 yo deaths in 2020.
If we eyeball the % graph from my original comment, thats about 38% for those top causes of death combined, which is about ~15,192 for both if them, or if you say 16% is cars, thats about ~7159 and if you say 18% is firearms, thats about ~ 8045.
Also, since this is a yearly stat of 18.6/100k the chance of you dieing from either of those will be rolling those odds 24x or roughly 446.5/100k. Completely nuts since you have 1 in 224 being killed by guns or cars if the 2020 rates would go on from now until 2050 for 1 year olds today.
Assuming the rate stays constant, yeah, but ... also yeah... looking at it over a larger time frame is also pretty discouraging.
My uh, mass mortality concern at the moment though is SNAP being cut off next month.
... we have maybe around 2 or 3 weeks before up to 42 million people begin to either starve or steal.
There is absolutely no way this will end well.
Absolutely. Thanks for spreading the word. I feel like not enough people know about it (or the real reasons for the shutdown, ugh.) I'm really worried about it. My family and I (disabled & unable to work) rely on them. I hope the shutdown crap gets figured out (in a decent way) and SNAP will be back soon, but I don't know... I don't know what I or countless other people will do. The food banks here are already overrun and can't keep up - that's before food stamps being cut off. 😬 I was already super struggling before this. I'm stressing!
I am also disabled... but, in a situation where... yeah I kept trying to qualify for SNAP, but uh... nope, I make too much money with SSDI, basically only because they count the part that's deducted for Medicare, that I don't ever see... as income.
If they didn't do that, then I would have qualified for SNAP.
Yay.
But, what that means is I've figured out how to not die without SNAP... and... also because I am an econometrician by school and trade... welp, I've been slowly and quietly stockpiling a surplus of rice and beans and soup and such since the tariffs started happening...
I predicted a signifcant rise in food prices.
I did not predict SNAP being entirely turned off. Cut back a good deal, yes, but no, not just entirely fucking off.
I guess what I would say is that you and yours should probably do as much stockpiling of basic staples like that as you can, before the grocery stores become warzones.
And to do that as inconspicuously as possible, unless there is some local, tight knit mutual aid group you can join.
Oh right of course, yeah if SSDI gets turned off, welp, yeah, I'm dead in probably under 6 months.
So....as I see it, people were shooting at each other while driving in 2017.
Yes, correct, there were exactly 9000 fatalites from exactly 1000, Matrix Reloaded style, 75 mph+, sustained, firearm involved road rage incidents, that each killed 9 people via both gunshot and vehicluar collisions.
~~Stonks~~ Statoostiks
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All I'm learning is that somewhere between the ages 4-5, and in 20 year increments ever after. I am effectively immortal for up to one year. I must leverage this power to my advantage.
I wonder if poisoning counts stuff like overdose/alcohol poisoning because that one seems strange
Source is a bit outdated now, 2018 (didn't realize when I posted that), but it's primarily from drugs apparently. Both prescription and non-prescription.
A bit sad that they didn't try to distinguish between accidents and suicide. But that's probably hard to know in most cases.
Yeah, makes sense then
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25-44 Just out here drinking random potions that turn out to be poisoned
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I hope some day we can get rid of all of these.
So that other things can take their place! Woo!
Unless you're going to eliminate all deaths, there will always be a leading cause of death.
Who came up with this graphic design?
What a terrible way to show this data, and only shows a small amount of info.
Could've been 6 lines if text and imparted as much.
Yeah... If this needed to be a graphic, a line or bar chart showing the relative rates of these handful of mortality causes would have been so much easier to read and conveyed more information.
How else would you know that between 4-5, 24-25, 44-45 and 64-45, you were IMMORTAL.
64-45
MY TIME HAS COME
Ive made to 41 by the skin of my teeth, im coming up on the next hard level, cancer. Im just gonna make sure i have shit ton of health potions bound to quick bar.
This graphic is incorrect. The biggest concern at my age is rogue samurai.
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Childhood diseases may overtake birth defects and accidents again soon.
Man, I wish there was something we could do about it. Oh well, one can dream i guess.
Poisoning? Do I have an enemy I don't know about?
Yeah, it's yourself
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