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Son of a BITCH! I'm so fucking tired of this... Everywhere you look you gotta examine EVERYTHING about a company/group because they might be fascists now...I love Grayjay, it was working so great and I loved the proclaimed mission...I was even trying to get FCast to work since I lost casting ability when I moved to Linux...
I'm just gonna take a break over here for a bit.
Sorry but this person is treating grapheneos' attacks on other groups as legitimate which throws the entire article into question. If they are happy to provide a platform for graphene's founder's paranoid conspiracies I can't trust the content.
Seems clear there's some questionable shit going on, but the only evidence presented is two YouTube videos which isn't actually a lot. I wouldn't be surprised based on this to hear there are deeper links, but this article is written by someone who thinks tweets and YouTube comments are evidence.
grapheneos' attacks on other groups
Where Attack? The worst Graphene ever did was say that they don't support certain Phones like FP because they are not updating their OS to their liking
Are you gonna go to Qubes OS next and complain that they are attacking laptop manufacturers (don't officially support Laptops because they don't have an open source UEFI)?
Aw man I knew there was something wrong here. I gave them money for the keyboard and the voice talk and immich bcz I was a Rossman fan. They played him and me. Fuck these fascists.
Ugh, now I feel gross. Time to find a new YouTube app.
FUTO is more or less openly fascists
How so? I'm not doubting, I just didn't see any of that evidence in the article.
Have you read the same article?
The founder hosted a debate with an open fascist then gave him a platform on the FUTO YouTube channel.
Do words mean anything anymore? That is an argument for them being fascists. But how are they "openly" fascist? Where is their statement, where they openly state "we are fascists"?
Because they might be, but I don't think they ever openly said so.
I think that's a pretty extreme bar, but I agree 2 YouTube discussions doesn't make a fascist. At worst it makes a Gavin newsom or Joe Rogan.
Yeah, because thieves go around making public statements of "we are thieves!"
In 2025 they do
Exactly my point, and yet the commenter claims FUTO do that, even though they obviously aren't, because who would.
But if your roommate says he isn't a thief, however he always hangs around with the local gang and continuously brings used stuff that he has no way of legally acquiring since he doesn't even have a job. I don't know man, you have to start asking questions.
Mike is not a nazi, he just goes to the nazi bar because he likes the beer.
I had no idea. Now I have to find a new keyboard...
Heliboard
Gross. Fuck FUTO.
They're openly disdainful of all things Open Source and OSI, and their software is not Open Source.
They're a fully for-profit company using consumer rights kind of rhetoric to manipulate people in service to FUTO's own pocketbook. Don't fall for their use of the .org tld or promises to "never abuse customers".
I've written many times about what assholes FUTO is. I'm fully convinced they're way more part of the problem than part of the solution and they're not to be trusted.
They've soured me on Rossman. Back when he was doing coverage of things like the court cases around right to repair and tractors and stuff, I watched a few videos of his and thought he was awesome. And then he got involved with FUTO and started billing Grayjay as "Open Source" and I've gotten sufficiently disillusioned with FUTO that I haven't followed Rossman at all. I've got coworkers changing their avatars to Clippy and shit, and I believe their hearts are in the right place, but I can't in good conscience really get behind anything or anyone associated with FUTO.
Edit: Oh. I honesty didn't even see this OP was a link to an article. Lol. Now I'm very interested to go read that article.
Edit 2: Shite. I've now read the article. I knew FUTO was assholes in a lot of different ways, but now I know how deeply, completely irredeemable they really are.
I've always had a weird feeling about FUTO, but I thought them giving money to open source projects can't be that bad. Now I hope they don't fuck up Immich.
Luckily thanks to their licensing model they basically cannot. Immich has according to github as of now 1606 contributors. Changing the license so that there could even be a proprietary fork would require basically the ok by every contributor (that made a relevant code contribution)
And even if they did somehow manage to get permission to switch the license, all previous versions would still be open in perpetuity so a fork would come easily. Immich source isn't only open, and not only GPL.. but AGPL-3.0 which is as copyleft as you can get.
Thank God! That's a relief. I thought I was going to have to redo my entire photo library hosting stuff.
Why does every mobile keyboard developer have some controversial shit? I just want to text in peace.
May I recommend Thumbkey its awesome and a bit different from other keyboards. Its concept is interesting ✨
It looks neat but what an absolutely stupid take from a keyboard author
Because it trusts you to write what you meant to write.
Butch if I didn't let it correct me I'd have to actually mook st the keyboard and who the fuck wants to do thatm.
Phones are tiny and humans are clumsy. I absolutely never mean what I type, as you can see above.
Anything on HeliBoard too?
The only thing I dislike of heliboard is their swipe function requires Google binaries. Most FOSS keyboards either lack some feature I use or are immersed in wild controversies.
Wolf also was spouting about how great Trump is and how "woke" shit is ruining society or whatever in January IIRC. I briefly trawled through their social media when I was investigating their keyboard, Grayjay, and Immich and promptly decided to never, ever give them money.
Note that their keyboard doesn't require network (at least as of now), so if you don't give them money or promote it to other people, they don't really benefit.
EDIT: Also, there are claims Rossman has a Kiwi Farms account and is at least somewhat active there. I haven't investigated those very thoroughly though.
JFC can there be nothing pure in this world?
Interestingly, according to one of his recent-ish comments, he left FUTO in February.
Yeah, not sure how much he's distancing himself from FUTO related things though. He brought up grayjay recently, but only specifically to talk about the devs comments on recent Texas app store legislation. Kind of a wash.
Given he is playing politician now, I don't think he's going to make a public statement about it. Not only would it hurt his influence but it would probably stall out any ongoing negotiations regarding right to repair. Shit sucks in general.
FUTO is also involved with Immich 🫤
They just bragged with v2 release how they "survived the controversial move to join FUTO" ...
I love Immich & use it a lot :(.
Try Ente Photos, I like it more.
I'm still disappointed that you can't interact with tags at all on the mobile app.
This is informative, and unfortunate.
I will be honest, I don't really expect louis will wade into this issue at all, since he seems to be very uncomfortable with any of the "political" or partisan aspects of the issues he covers.
I can empathize with why one might be that way, but I hope I'm wrong, it would be rather disappointing.
Maybe it's time for me to open some feature requests on the helicopter repo for futo keyboard features I'd really miss if I left it behind... It'd be good for both projects to be feature rich and competitive anyway.
He's not uncomfortable with it - He hates the cognitive dissonance of being a capitalist and hating the results of it
Maybe Louis Rossman will see this and beat FUTO back into shape? Maybe? Please? I just want one good outcome here!!