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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 4 points 28 minutes ago

I read an interesting report about how most of these courses are rather ineffective because it adds knowledge but doesn't change behaviors.

https://www.cybersecuritydive.com/news/cybersecurity-awareness-training-research-flaws/803201/

[–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 hours ago
[–] jake_jake_jake_@lemmy.world 38 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

we do monthly phishing tests and some of our people are so bad that we put in the test email "this is a phishing email, do not click sign in" above and below the sign in box and they still give creds

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 2 points 15 minutes ago

seccomp sent pre-notice emails out about the phishing tests that were coming.

75% of the company reported the pre-notice email as phishing (even the CEO).

we did it mostly because the seccomp team was a huge thorn and caused so many unnecessary delays due to them injecting themselves into every single process.

the CSO quit soon after and some of their lackeys with them. we then hired a competent leader that worked with the org to meet compliance and regulatory requirements instead of being a blocker.

[–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 hours ago

"Blah blah blah... 'click sign in'... Okay, gotcha!"

[–] pohart@programming.dev 17 points 5 hours ago

The head of IT at one of my old jobs won 3 or 4 iPhones circa 2007

[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 13 points 5 hours ago

I wish I could get my flock of idiots in for a course. I'm sick of uninstalling swift browser

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The twist? The cat was Toonces and he never did make it into work that day!

[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago

Look out Toonces!!!

[–] tiramichu@sh.itjust.works 136 points 10 hours ago (6 children)

A previous (huge) company of mine sent out a lot of phishing test emails, some of which were pretty convincing.

As developers, we quickly discovered that all the emails had a metadata header in them which identified them as a phishing test, so we set up a filter for it so every email since is clearly coded with a bright red "Phishing test!" label.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 3 points 39 minutes ago

Here they started doing such phishing tests a while ago and our IT department had significantly worse stats than other departments, in terms of how often we would click on the link in the phishing mail.

And yeah, the conclusion was that we were just being asshats that decided to poke around in the obvious phishing mails for the fun of it. Rather than getting extra security training, management told us to just stop dicking around, so that our stats look better.

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

I have the same thing. All the emails come from nova.phishme.com so I have outlook set to mark them as junk so I can "report" the phishing attempt.

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 58 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

... You must be one of my co-workers. Except that we just delete ours rather than labeling them.

[–] tiramichu@sh.itjust.works 60 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

We needed to label them because the requirement was not only that we don't click them, but that we use the "report phishing" function on them.

Also some of them were pretty funny.

[–] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 8 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Was it hoxhunt? It's a bit spammy but they seem to push for a more gamefied approach over collective punishment.

[–] tiramichu@sh.itjust.works 12 points 7 hours ago

Not in my case, no. The content was completely custom to the organisation. I assume they were big enough that they felt like a lot of the risk would come from coordinated spearphishing carefully crafted to look like genuine corp email.

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[–] affenlehrer@feddit.org 11 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] lessthanluigi@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 32 minutes ago

My favorite band from 1999

[–] dennisnedry@feddit.nu 5 points 7 hours ago

Thanks for the tip!

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 13 points 9 hours ago

Where I work they use the microsoft phishing simulation, for which they publish a list of domains they send from.

[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 8 hours ago

We all have to do the course. And honestly I'm not even mad.

In my line of work, most people are not computer savvy. We're running Windows 11 and no one has admin privileges, even the highest ranking people. They're all limited. That's fine. We can't install anything. I'm pretty sure I could hit up PortableApps and get some portable software working, but I'm not trying to push my luck. I'm pretty sure I know what I can and can't get away with, but it's a good job and I don't want to mess it up. Besides, a lot of people are illegally streaming sports or movies and getting away with that, so IT security is pretty lax. That's probably true at a lot of places.

I don't mind the cybersecurity courses because I mute them and make them run at double speed and I ignore them, clicking through, then I ace the test. It's not that I don't care. I just know the material already. I've also helped coworkers who earnestly sat through the whole thing and are genuinely struggling. I know they hate how casually I get all the questions right, but they hate having to go through it a second time even more.

Plus, there's one vendor of training videos that is kind of like an office comedy, and one of the workers has a bunch of anime fan art in their cubicle. So it amuses me to no end that all of my coworkers are seeing these characters. It's nothing recent and I haven't seen it in a while. I know Killua from Hunter x Hunter is there. 12 year old boy, has super powers, something with lightning? (been ages since I watched HxH, and Meruem best boy) and he can rip your heart out of your chest (he's done it before). I feel like they need to add Anya Forger (from SPYxFAMILY) to the wall. That would be funny. (Telepathic toddler, dumb as a box of rocks, and just as adorable.)

[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 67 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Shit.... I'm doing that course in normal business hours. Get fucked brenda!

[–] tiramichu@sh.itjust.works 24 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

For real! A course is work. If I'm working I get paid for my time. End of story.

Don't let them rob you! (any more than they already are)

[–] GiveOver@feddit.uk 50 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

If a coworker leaves their pc unlocked near me I like to click the phishing emails so they have to do the course. Tee hee!

[–] TastehWaffleZ@lemmy.world 14 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I created a little script that ran on startup that would wait a random amount of time between 5 and 15 mins and would just hit the left key once. I dropped it on a dev's computer when he left it unlocked and forgot about it. After weeks of torment, it activated while he had a YouTube video so he figured out it wasn't his fault. He was convinced it was the keyboard and started harassing IT so I had to come clean.

Jokes on me though, every time there was any quirk on his computer, server, or with his code he blamed me and didn't believe me.

[–] Ediacarium@feddit.org 41 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (3 children)

I worked at a company where everyone would try and send an email to themselves from an unlocked PC. That mail contained a heads up that the victim willl bring cake into the office e.g. next tuesday. They then were typically forwarded to the whole team while thanking them for their generosity.

It really hammered that lesson home and the victims did honor the cake-mails. Only downside was, that this led to people to tryimg to bait each other into leaving their PCs unlocked and creative countermeasures, such as delaying mails containing the word 'cake'.

[–] GiveOver@feddit.uk 28 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Exactly, it's my own version of teaching cyber security!

I recently set somebody's homepage to meatspin.com and they snitched on me to the boss because they were worried they'd get pulled up for visiting NSFW websites. The boss just said "Why was your PC unlocked?"

[–] markz@suppo.fi 24 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe your work atmosphere is different, but if I showed meatspin to a coworker, it would be considered pretty fucking weird and inapproproate.

[–] GiveOver@feddit.uk 12 points 8 hours ago

Oh yeah I definitely wouldn't recommend doing this unless you're comfortable with all your colleagues!

[–] chellomere@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago

Ah, I might try this 😂 my current strategy is to install and run xneko on coworkers' computers when they forget to lock their screen, so they will have a cat running after their mouse pointer.

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 hours ago

We used beer, but same idea.

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[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 20 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

Why would they have to come in at 7am?

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 11 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Its some kind of American exceptionalism thing we're too normal to understand.

Training courses are during business hours or nobody would show up to them in Australia (and I'm guessing its the same in the UK from your username).

So shafted by their work culture they don't even question the meme..

[–] porksnort@slrpnk.net 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

It is sad but true. I am USAian, and it is a constant battle with co-workers to get them to stand up even a little against dumb mandates. It’s especially frustrating because EVERY DAMN TIME we do push back, management backs down. You’d think they would see the pattern..

[–] bandwidthcrisis@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

A few years ago we were discussing how some companies were trying 4-day weeks and someone said that they'd like to try four 10-hour days instead of five 8-hour.

They could not imagine that it meant working fewer hours.

[–] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

You think American work culture is bad (which it is)? You should see Japanese work culture... the sheer amount of unpaid work they do over there, along with mandatory unpaid socialising, even holding a collection for their bosses and bringing back souvenirs for their colleagues and bosses when they go on holiday somewhere :/

[–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

bringing back souvenirs for their colleagues and bosses when they go on holiday somewhere :/

Damn, I used to do that for some coworkers because we were actually friends. I cannot imagine how shitty it would feel to be forced to do that.

[–] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's a whole thing, it's called omiyage and it's seen as an apology for your absence and thanking your boss and colleagues for allowing you time off.

...y'know, your entitlement to paid leave.

[–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 4 hours ago

I wonder how far you could stretch it. Get them all (if you're coming to america, for instance) those little plastic acorns with a little item in it from those coin machines that used to be by every convenience store's doors. Though I haven't seen any of those in ages, so maybe not.

[–] AceOnTrack@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 9 hours ago

Because fuck you.

  • middle management.
[–] Theoriginalthon@lemmy.world 13 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Upper management - make sure everyone is in for 9 for training

middle management - fuck better make sure everyone is there, everyone in at 8 for training,

lowest manger - shit there is no way user will be in at 8, shit bag user be in at 7 for mandatory training!

[–] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 8 hours ago

You want me in your office at 7, Brenda? Sure, I'll come in for 7. But I'm sure as hell going via the timeclock first.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago (6 children)

is anyone actually awake at 7?

It's not until nine or even ten, and several pots of coffee that my mind is ready to absorb training information. Anything before 9, and I'm not awake enough to filter the rank sarcasm concerning the terrible AI training slides.

[–] Theoriginalthon@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

If you ever have kids 7 is considered a sleep in

[–] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 5 hours ago

I'm an early bird, I'm more productive at 7am than I am at 7pm. Everyone's different. :)

[–] tatann@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago

I consider myself mostly useless at work from 9h to 9h30, and most effective from 17h to 19h

But no way I'm staying up to 19h anymore

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[–] MutantTailThing@lemmy.world 10 points 9 hours ago

Well, did he win?

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