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Congressional Democrats are marching in lockstep into the fourth week of a government shutdown, even as lawmakers brace for what could be the most painful point yet — a cutoff in federal food aid for more than 40 million people.

But Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries are signaling that there will be no change in strategy: Democrats won’t provide the votes to reopen the government unless their demands over health care are met. And they’re increasingly hammering President Donald Trump for his failure to sit down to negotiate with Democrats, while instead embarking on his second foreign trip so far during the shutdown.

“This is all Trump,” a visibly frustrated Sen. Peter Welch of Vermont told CNN. “Trump’s not engaged. Republicans won’t negotiate,” Welch said, arguing that Trump’s trip to Asia this week as “an indication of how he could care less.”

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[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 day ago

Fascist republicans control all levels of government but it’s the Democrats fault? Please.

[–] celeste@kbin.earth 188 points 2 days ago (16 children)

https://bsky.app/profile/abraham.bsky.social/post/3m44siauvas2b

If I were running the DNC, there would be Democratic Party sponsored food relief banks across the country right now that specifically welcomed anyone regardless of party affiliation.

Along with the food, there could be voter registration and links to runforsomething.net

[–] Inaminate_Carbon_Rod@lemmy.world 116 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This is honestly genius so of course the DNC won’t do it.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 43 points 2 days ago

The DNC is so spineless it's amazing they are at least not caving on the budget. Let's hope they carry this fight to the end.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 3 points 1 day ago

I love me some DNC establishment bashing, but where is all this free food supposed to come from? As far as I'm aware they still haven't paid off the debts from the Harris campaign.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Pretty sure that would violate laws against "buying" votes, but what the hell are Republicans going to do? Shutting them down would look bad even to their voters.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 47 points 2 days ago

Do stupid shit like the Republicans do, like "oh we are unaffiliated and just like to set up our booths here because of the foot traffic". They juke and jive our entire justice system with 5 year old tactics but everyone else is scared to look improper.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 14 points 2 days ago

Kat Abu is running for Congress in Illinois and running a campaign based on doing good community service with campaign donations. She claimed she checked it all out and it's perfectly legal. I think as long as it's not limited by party or in exchange for a voting promise it's fine.

https://www.goodnewsinstead.com/culture/gen-z-candidate-uses-campaign-funds-to-feed-those-in-need

[–] celeste@kbin.earth 14 points 2 days ago

Honestly that's the part of this suggestion I'm not sure about, but regardless of whether that part's cool, Dems should be setting up food distribution in places that are going to be the worst hit by this.

[–] ProfThadBach@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

If they would only have that much balls. Hell here in WNC there were hunting parties trying go after FEMA last year. I don't know if the MAGA rural meth-heads would have enough class to even thanks the people helping them.

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[–] Part4@infosec.pub 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Nearly twice as many SNAP recipients in Trump voting states compared to Democrat voting states.

They will all blame the other side at first, but as Trump's economic policy slams his base hardest in so many different ways they will be forced to re-evaluate. The Democrats just have to make it clear that this temporary difficulty is necessary to protect their health care.

Let's see just how much opposition the democrats are actually prepared to muster, because their leadership and establishment seems pretty pro Republican to me. Same as the red tory v blue tory situation here in the UK.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago

I mean this is pretty simple for Democrats.

Americans decided to tell Democrats to go fuck themselves after Biden had a legislatively successful presidency in which he tried (and in many cases succeeded) to pass a ton of legislation to help Americans. Not to mention all the historical data proving how much better Democrats are for average Americans than Republicans.

It was a slap in the face from the ignorant American electorate.

So now Democrats just have to sit back and let Americans find out what happens when they abandon Democrats and put all their eggs in the Republican basket. Let them suffer until they learn the error of their ways....or don't. Cuz this is America and it's pretty stupid so there may not be any lessons learned.

They really don't have to do anything. And shouldn't.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 61 points 2 days ago (6 children)

I don't get why like most of the rest of the world this doesn't cause an election. America needs some modernization to it's rules so that a king can't happen again. But it won't if the dems get in they'll say some pretty words about healing and won't change anything.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago

Federal elections here are on a set schedule, there's no concept of a "snap" election here. The closest thing is if a Congressional seat goes vacant, they need to schedule a special election just for that seat before it can be filled.

In theory, we prevent kings here by allocating distinct powers to distinct branches of government. The problem occurs when those branches stop using the oversight powers the Constitution gives them. The American President can rule like a king -- if Congress and the Courts let him.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

But it won’t if the dems get in they’ll say some pretty words about healing and won’t change anything.

You're confusing the small neoliberal faction with the whole party...

Something billionaires put a lot of money into. Them and the media conglomerates they own would rather depress Dem turnout and lose the general, because a neoliberal can't win the fair primary we'll have next time.

I know it's probably not intentional, but please stop spreading neoliberal propaganda.

Now is the time to be pushing people to vote in the next Dem primaries, not pretending that it's hopeless. Depressed turnout is the only way billionaires get someone they want like Newsom or Pritzker, and if they go on to win the general, they'll appoint a biased neoliberal to chair the DNC again.

Please pay attention, we can't afford widespread ignorance in the face of fascism

[–] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I don't think this take is fully thought out.

Their system is monumentally slow.

For important decisions, they need a super majority in the senate and a majority in the house, and the presidency, and then they need to word it extremely carefully to not have it monkeys paw'd by the supreme Court.

They haven't had an actionable super majority for over a quarter century.

The reason they appear not to do much is because without bipartisan support or all the things I just mentioned they can basically only change how money is spent and taxes (only sorta IIRC).

Basically, your comment hurts everyone by encouraging voter apathy due to pushing ideas that aren't compatible with the reality of their slow system.

Is the DNC filled with center right people who love a lot of the bad things in place? Yes.

Are there still absolutely positive changes they would make given the opportunity? Also yes.

Is it possible to change the party through primaries and local politics? Also yes.

Anyhow, my point is, it needs to be considered the system they're working in before loose accusations are thrown at them.

Finally, we here in Canada could literally have proportional representation right now, giving everyone's vote equal weighting and giving us true choice and increased leverage over politicians, but we don't, despite having a majority liberal government and so what I am saying, is having the supposed left leaning party win (or in their case less right), still doesn't garunteed results, but it does garunteed you won't ramp up the very real discrimination and crony corruption like you see when right wing governments win.

It matters, even if choices are mid is the point.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

"Look forward, not backwards...yadda yadda something about Marquess of Queensbury rules..."

Meanwhile, the conservatives are building a machine to not only punch below the belt, but to crush the testicles of their enemies to dust in violation of all the rules. The media, "centrists" and not a few "leftists", pointing at both of them: "see! both sides!"

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not passing a budget doesn't cause elections anywhere. Modern democracies have solutions to keep government running without a new budget (some sort of default minimal budget or just previous budget begin prolonged). What causes elections are non-confidence votes. Those are usually lost when coalitions collapse and ruling party can't secure 50% of votes anymore.

[–] thefool@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

In Canada, budget votes are always confidence votes. If a budget vote fails, the government is defeated, and the governor general gives the next largest party a chance to form government, and then the next, and so on (in practice, this never happens). Then an election is called

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 3 points 2 days ago

Variable elections are usually more of a feature of parliamentary democracy. Congressional democracies typically have scheduled elections; both Brazil and Mexico have scheduled elections similar to the USA.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago

Isn't Donvict off in Asia doing the double-jerkoff dance?

Seriously, I wish the Democrats were running ads showing the contrast - show the food banks running out of food, while this asshole tells everyone he is focused on destroying the east wing so he can put in a fucking ballroom and flitting off to Asia to dance the night away.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 days ago (2 children)

People are civil

Americans are and have been, considering what happened over the past year, extremely civil

I wonder what will be left of said civility once 42 million of them have missed two meals in a row...

[–] GreatAspie86@lemy.lol 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Honestly? Probably blame the wrong people and keep voting R.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yep. Hordes of people will blame the democrats for not giving in.

Next year they'd be blaming them for increased healthcare costs.

Dealing with Republicans is almost always a heads I win tails you lose situation, where the fault always falls on either immigrants or democrats.

Yep. Hordes of people will blame the democrats for not giving in.

This shit aint helpful. Instead of pointing fingers at bogeymen, maybe keep on hammering home the point of why the Dems arent signing off. The Rs are in deed, blaming the dems. They are saying "they wont pass the bill" so we have to all keep on hammering "because they want tax credit and Medicaid protections for the people, among other things. The Rs could end this just as quickly. And this needs to said a hell of a lot more than "Those people over there are morons, unlike me, who is so smart!".

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

They'd attack their neighbors unfortunately

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Keep it shut down until we start striking and rioting

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Yup.

It's inevitable anyway. Let's just cut to the chase. No sense putting band-aids on it and putting it off for a little while. System will still be inherently broken and eventually lead to strikes/riots anyway. Might as well get 'er started.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago (7 children)
[–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Of course, the false premise here is that the English language is logical

[–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

You probably also think you say Gif the right way!

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[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Just let it all burn.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I'm still confused about why the democrats are actually doing the right thing here

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Because what do they have to lose? Johnson is ramming every negative policy through with every legitimate and dirty method out there. The basic government institutions that support our society are being dismantled or sold off to the highest oligarch with crony capitalism. Open corruption by trump in pardoning obvious unapologetic criminals that promise trump fealty or lick the boot. trump is literally tearing down the White House (thats something we only allow Canada to do historically). Johnson refuses to seat a Democratically elected Democrat representative for over a month.

What do Democratic lawmakers have to lose at this point?

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