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[–] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 63 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Not a fluke, just peaked very early in his international career. LOTR was only his second big budget production. Name another director who made three movies in a row that are as epic as the LOTR trilogy and made movies that are similar or higher quality afterwards. There aren’t many.

[–] hillbicks@feddit.de 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I still have to chuckle when I see the updated cover for Bad Taste

Still have no idea how he managed to score that job at the time.

[–] bluetardis@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

You missed the R rated muppet movie he did.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meet_the_Feebles

[–] sxan@midwest.social 9 points 1 year ago

He set himself a really high bar, for sure.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Ridley Scott maybe?

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 50 points 1 year ago

I understand he was pressured into (or to step up in?) The Hobbit after things were already very much on the wrong track.

And he'd been brewing ideas of how to do lotr long before doing it, and never intended to do The Hobbit.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 37 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Dude's got so much money now that he can do anything he wants with his life, and apparently making big budget movies isn't that.

[–] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago

yeah dude is a fucking billionaire. He sold only a part of Weta Digital for $1.6 billion to those idiots at Unity. And now with Unity shuttering their Weta department he gets almost everything back.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Making cutting edge documentaries seem to be what he wants to do with his time

[–] HootinNHollerin@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He has the largest and best collection of WWI airplanes in the world

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Many of which are on public display, too.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Hobbit was a corporate screw-job. New Line said they'd do it with or without him, and he decided he'd rather helm it than watch someone else fuck it up. (Or watch all that money leave New Zealand.) Aaand then the studio pushed him around like any other stooge. No respect whatsoever for giving them a celebrated mountain of cash.

Lindsey Ellis's unsubtle three-part overview covers the biggest problem: some contract promised money per-film, not as a flat percentage. Two okay films got rudely chopped into three mediocre films. Couple that with ass-pull deadlines and yet another hideously overworked CGI studio and you get dwarves surfing on molten gold.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The first Hobbit was pretty good in my imo.

[–] Kuvwert@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The bilbo edition is a fan cut that chops the three movies up into a single film and I enjoy it a lot

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I think so too, even the second had a few good scenes. I don't remember anything from the third

[–] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I don't think it's that big of a mystery. I'm sure it had a lot to do with him trying to turn The Hobbit into a new epic trilogy. It's a pretty short book, it really just needed one film. Also, the first one was terrible to the point that I never bothered watching the other two, and I love LOTR

[–] Kbin_space_program@kbin.social 60 points 1 year ago

The hobbit films being a mess were entirely the fault of new line.

The preproduction of LOTR was in the range of 2 years. That's hammering out the script, but also locations, sets, securing extras, apparently all of the horses in NZ for some of the shots but also all of the costumes and armor.

All of those preproduction things were allowed in the range of 6 weeks(as opposed to over 100) for the Hobbit, and New Line refused to budge at all.

[–] JustAnotherRando@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That wasn't really on Jackson from what I understand. He originally wasn't even going to be directing the Hobbit films, but had to come in after the original director had other obligations and things were a mess when he got there. I believe the studio had already decided that it would be three films as well, but I could be misremembering.

[–] Avg@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He could have quit the project though.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 year ago

He could've quit as much as you could've started it.

[–] golli@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

My understanding is that he (at least partially) did it so other people wouldn't be out of their jobs. Some of which he might already know from the LOTR trilogy.

Who knows if the project would have continued without Peter Jackson stepping in.

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’m sure it had a lot to do with him trying to turn The Hobbit into a new epic trilogy.

IIRC: He only wanted to do two movies and that was what was originally announced. Then the studio said,if you want our funding, make three.

So we ended up with the hobbit shitshow.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Annnnd, that's why he's not "doing anything" these days.

I genuinely hope he's living his best life. Fuck Hollywood.

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I genuinely hope he’s living his best life.

He owns Weta FX which is constantly in demand so I doubt he is short of cash or interesting shit to do.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They made a kick-ass tabletop game of corporate-funded mech gladiator battles called Heavy Hitters, btw. Simply out of a shared love for the themes involved. 🤘🏼

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

And the idea of two was partly to try buy time and put in more detail. Much of what he took on wasn't prepared and they wouldn't give more time, so he had to improvise on the fly. Very hard turd to polish. Then having to do three, suddenly the opposite problem, but still no time to shift and prep.

[–] resketreke@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I watched all three, and they were all terrible. I've watched the LOTR trilogy a few times, I've only watched The Hobbit trilogy once and I don't think I'm ever watching them again.

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There are a few fan edits that dump all the padding bullshit and the LOTR foreshadowing. The results is two Ok movies that follow the book quite well, still nowhere near LOTR but not the pile of shit the studio cuts are.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We watched the six movies not that long ago and it was the first time my GF watched them and she really enjoyed the Bilbo movies but couldn't wait to be done with LotR...

[–] 6daemonbag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did you show her the extended lotr cuts or the original releases? Extended editions are better for telling closer to the whole story, but the originals are better films.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Extended and I guess you're right, even for me it felt like the movies didn't age that well

[–] 6daemonbag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah the long cuts are for existing fans and are generally not good for first time viewing. I've made the same mistake for nearly two decades before I realized that. And Peter Jackson even says as much!

[–] TheMechanic@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sure Meet the Feebles was in the top three Anon meant.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=_N3AfxrMx5s

[–] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bad Taste has got to take the number one spot though. It's definitely Jackson's best work

[–] Scrof@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What about Braindead though. One of the funniest and most disturbing movies I've ever seen.

[–] gullible@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“I kick ass for the lord!” still sets me off like nothing else.

[–] Aggravationstation@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

"Your mother ate my dog" ranks a little higher for me.

[–] qupada@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Agree.

Lawnmower vs zombie gore > every other bit of gratuitous splatter in PJ's early work.

[–] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It took me a minute to figure out what you were talking about, they called it Dead Alive here lol

Also another classic for sure!

[–] CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

But I loved the Get Back documentary

[–] tegs_terry@feddit.uk 15 points 1 year ago

King Kong was ace