too tired? from what im seeing the vast majority of people just don't care. they are fine with thier internet becoming more expensive and handing everything to these companies. most simply think this is the only option.
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I mean, that sounds exactly like tired/defeated thinking to me. Frustrating to see it play out, tho.
From my experience, brother in law hates it. Wants to cancel but the kids (2 preteens) watch it a lot and he just doesn't want to use something new that he has to relearn to be comfortable leaving them alone with.
Canceled my 4 screen plan right after this was announced... So not in my experience
Same here, but it's disappointing to see how many people just let it go and pay when enough combined push back would work.
And their revenue is still down and they had the worst day for their stock price ever when they announced this news. People are too tired and stressed out to fight a dying behemoth that used to be good like we're living in a Dark Souls game or something.
Well I mean The Witcher season 3 came out. yeah it went up.
They're kidding themselves if I'm keeping it after. Again.
You should've just pirated it.
For me, it was I Think You Should Leave's new season that got me to sign up for a month to binge that repeatedly. After we finish the documentary on Homo naledi we've been watching, we'll cancel Netflix and start Max for a month so we can watch the new season of Righteous Gemstones.
Cancelled and three users who used my password didn’t sign up. Doubt Netflix would announce this was a failure so here we are.
I had the opposite experience. I canceled and then my moochers signed up for their own.
Did they decide to share their passwords with you?
I'm sure they would if I asked. I could probably even guess it as the sharing was already both ways with other services.
We would still be in the same problem with Netflix blocking other locations though.
An uptick after these changes make sense. People want to continue their comfortable routines. However now that it's draining their wallet, they will probably be on the lookout for cheap/free alternatives.
It's the same with increasing prices. Short term your revenue will spike, but it will bleed as you slowly lose customers because you offer less value.
But the people who were previously paying is where Netflix is playing with fire. They released the customers who were paying only because they were sharing it and didnt want to cause an inconvenience.
I think it's a pretty big gamble by Netflix, it will take time to see how it played out.
I did that for years. Checked usage and found out the other couple people I was sharing with weren't using it anyways.
Cancelled after 10 years.
Sure they might have gained a few subscribers short term, but are they the type to just let the sub roll for a decade straight or will they just watch what they want and cancel until they can re-sub and binge again?
Same reason why people are still on Twitter and Reddit, the majority can't be arsed to push back against companies. This is why they keep getting away with it and it's just enabling other companies to go the same route.
Yeah, and the same reason I believe all these micro subscriptions in cars will just go ahead. In 5-10 years, half of the functions of the car will be locked behind subscription gates and it will be normal. Too many people jsut don't bloody care.
Indeed. Here's your $50,000 car that casts $1000 a month to operate on top of fuel and maintenance. So really it is a $100,000 car that you put 50k down on and pay off on the installment plan. We are in the enshittification stage of this version of capitalism. We cling to the myth that the system makes our lives better, it did for a long time if you lived in the developed world, but that dynamic has played out. Now we are in the phase where 'growth' is mainly found by enshittification.
I mean you're right, but it's so fucking exhausting to care about everything wrong in the world. Gotta pick your battles. Personally I have a semi-decent Jellyfin setup, but I'm not going to berate anyone for taking on a netflix sub if the momentary distraction helps get them thru another day in this dystopian hellworld.
Some things they don't care about -- e.g. Reddit, Twitter stuff -- and some things they just don't feel like they can affect. If they're buying a new car, and every single car in their region and in their price range is selling subscriptions, then they're going to feel like they have no choice.
Now, they do likely have choices -- they could buy a used car, or they could look outside their immediate region -- but those options may not address their pain points (maybe they really, really wanted a new car), or maybe they can't afford the time to travel, etc., but the fact that less convenient choices exist don't necessarily make people aware of them, or feel like they're real options.
When every company you interact with, and every transaction you make, is like this, it takes up all of your spoons for dealing with this stuff. It wears down your resistance, and makes it feel like it doesn't matter what you want, just what's being offered.
Yeah, I mean, look at phones. People could just buy used phones. Some do. But the vast majority?
I don't get what's controversial about Netflix making sure their customers keep their promises.
The good thing about Netflix is that they don't lock you in for 12-24 months. So you're free to cancel whenever you want. Compare that to the agreement you have with your internet provider.
With that said, you who cancelled Netflix because of this change, what streaming service did you move to that didn't enforce on account per household?
Netflix making sure their customers keep their promises
Netflix sold me a 4 screens shareable account. They then broke their promise and removed the shareable part. WTF are you talking about, or was that simply sarcasm?
If you read the agreement you agreed ro it clearly says they are allowed to change the terms and you are free to cancel the subscription.
They didn't break any promises.
We replaced Netflix with nothing. The loss has made no discernable negative impact on our lives.
Ok. Then you probably didn't need Netflix anyways?
I just use stremio now
With that said, you who cancelled Netflix because of this change, what streaming service did you move to that didn’t enforce on account per household?
No streaming service has a "on[e] account per household" rule so I'm not really sure what you mean. Are you saying "what streaming service allows password sharing?" The answer is all of them except Netflix and Apple sort of (Apple cleverly tied it to having an Apple ID so credit where credit is due. It's just too difficult to password share outside your family. But in theory you can).
I didn't cancel netflix, but I didn't bother to make my own account when I got booted from my parents' account. Because Netflix doesn't make enough good stuff to justify it anymore and they cancel everything too quickly. I'm actually happier paying for Apple TV+ or whatever it's called because the price is good and the content is like nothing I've ever seen half the time. I can just browse PlutoTV and/or Tubi and I've got 90% of the quality I see at Netflix for $free.99.
I don’t get what’s controversial about Netflix making sure their customers keep their promises.
This is a tad dramatic, we don't have a moral obligation to netflix. Account holders agreed to terms and to make it sound so important as a personal promise is a bit much. Either way, you're totally right, Netflix is within their rights to boot people. I think most people get that. But they also allowed the status quo for 16 years, so this is their fault. They set an expectation and created a sharing culture that almost, quite literally, crosses generations. They wanted to be in more homes faster and that was the cost. Then they're surprised when they say "hey it's over" and people are vocalizing their displeasure? Again, it's their right, but what did they (or you) expect to happen?
Either way it doesn't matter. If their balance sheet works it works. I just can't quite see why you're riding in defense of Netflix.
Sounds like they making shit up lmao
These guys ever think the new customers just signed up for the free month and plan to drop the service at the end of the trial?
I dropped them but they kept billing me anyway. Finally got it cancelled last month (hopefully).
I honestly think that they were kind of right to go after password sharing. In the end, it is all about how expensive you want your service to be. It's up to the user decide if it is too expensive or not. Of course I cancelled, but hey, if most if the people were OK to pay more than good for Netflix
I rolled back to stremio.io
I know I'm extrapolating this news too far but every time I see news like this it adds on to the reasons why I think this country will never have the will for a general strike. I don't blame the populace, I just think corporations have decimated our collective belief in majority power so badly that we can't even go without the latest season of "Is It Cake?" For a couple months to set even a tiny boundary.
I hate subscriptions. Too damn easy to forget about. I’ve started subscribing for the shortest period possible and immediately canceling. Sometimes I’ll renew, but generally I just try to get as much as I can out of it in a short period then let it expire
I write the end of subscription trials on my calendar so I don't forget to cancel them.
I sure didn't: I'd been a loyal customer since the DVD days but this was the final straw. I cancelled as soon as it was announced and will not ever be renewing. Netflix jumped the shark and is dead to me.