If you allow businesses in residential neighborhoods, "those" people might come there! The horror!
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I hate the sub urbs, either go full urban or rural none of this cat dependant crap
I, too, hate being subject to the feline overlords.
I also far prefer dom urbs.
Every house essentially having a small storefront space attached. But it’s just to park a car
Agreed, it would wreck the neighborhood. Wreck it for the better.
In Latin america is pretty much the norm that in small neighborhoods there is at least 2 to 3 small stores in ppl's houses. I dunno about the US, but it can definetly help with the "car everywhere" culture, the enviroment and why not? also letting people getting some extra bucks by providing their neighbors with stuff they probably don't want to buy in huge quantities or are too lazy to drove to the store for.
In America it's illegal to run a store out of your house because white people hate minorites.
But it's your house !?
I'm no lawyer or anything, but isn't there a law that lets you do whatever the fuck you want to your house (something along the line of "castle bla bla bla doctrine"?
That only let's you shoot people, not sell them bread.
Oh ok, my bad.
No worries, US laws are fucking twisted.
How does your name work?
On the Lemmy website you can change your display name and use a fancy font generator to make one. I don't see it though as Voyager filters them.
I see it on liftoff.
No that's only for shooting minorities
That would be too much freedom for the "land of the free".
We have something called zoning laws. Some people here are blaming racism for these laws. Maybe that’s partially true, not entirely sure. But there are definitely other reasons.
Like you’re not supposed to put a factory next to a school. A few years ago there was a huge factory explosion in Texas and because of their shitty zoning it affected some school in the area. Can’t remember if kids died in that.
i don't doubt that racism is a component to this, but there's also the part where breaking up the monotone suburban hellscape would make it "unsafe for kids". people move to suburbs with the specific purpose of having kids, so the place is designed to be inescapable without a car but with no clear signs of confinement, just an endless continuation of the same sanitized space. then when said kids are old enough to trust they can learn to drive in the same environment and only then released from the tutorial world they're safely stuck into whenever they come "home"
but yes, also, god forbid your children have to meet minorities or poor people, and since small shops don't pay well and have the audacity to employ non-white people, the only way is to cut them out. you can pick your shit up at the gas station, if you're an adult.
I don't know if zoning laws were actually caused by racism, but they were and are definitely used to disadvantage racial minorities.
Castle docyorine is in regards to home defense should someone enter your house to harm you
Zoning lwas treat residential and commercial zoning means certain types of business like running an in person store is a no go
Wild to me that there is a law that legally allows me to literally shoot someone on sight, but can be arrested if trying to sell inofensive, day to day stuff at my house. American priorities first I guess?
Shoot anyone on sight bs shoot someone that just kicked in your door are two different things just of out that their.
And you can sell stuff oblibw oyr of your home. Yoy mostly haven nimbys that prevent mixed use zoning through lists of the us
Yes, but like others have said there are zoning laws, but more importantly these suburbs are almost always included with HOA (Home Owner Association) and when you buy the house you are required to accept the covenants of the HOA where your house sits, however what makes this even worse is that most states give WAY too much power to HOA's to the point where if you are doing something that does not comply with the HOA covenants, you can be subjected to fines, getting sued, or even have your house foreclosed on by the HOA.
I love the freedom I get in America
Reminds me more to Edward Scissorhands’ neighbour
Was thinking the same thing.
Ironically, a hairdresser. The pastels would probably be too colorful for op's hood.
The fucking white and black cars, jesus...
Remember, it's the land of freedom!
No, opening residential to commercial property would ruin it. One business won't...the droves of others will.
Businesses don't usually just completely overrun entire neighborhoods, and "opening" doesn't mean "do whatever the fuck you want". You can still specify that you don't want night clubs or auto shops in a specific place.
Mixed zoning is the norm in Europe, and it sure as fuck doesn't ruin any neighborhoods, quite the opposite in fact.
Japan too
Canada too. I lived on top of a tattoo and vape store across the street from a cafe and grocery store. There were rules to keep the face of the buildings looking kept up.
I was struggling to understand this thread as a European running my business from my home, in my case I'm more of a "go visit" than "receive visits" but I also know of others in the neighborhood that do hairdressing, electronics repairs, etc.
I also have multiple supermarkets in walking distance...
In Spain some people play an uno-reverse and live in industrial zones. There's also restaurants in industrial parks.
It's funny, because mixed use zoning is some of the most desirable places to live in terms of market value. People don't want to drive for. Every. Single. Thing.
The argument against mixed use is often that they don't want to be forced to live in a mixed use area, but the same people are fine with forcing everyone to live how they want. Most likely they only want single family homes because they have never experienced good mixed use and can't imagine how great it is.
it’s as if you think the alternative is businesses being like “alright boys, suburbs are on the menu”.
of course there’ll be regulation, mixed use zoning doesn’t mean chaos.
Mmmmregulation paidforbysaidcompanies
That's not how cities work.
Home based businesses are normal in Canada where I live, people have hair, massage, other aesthetic studios, small scale businesses, professional services like counselling, etc. Heck, you can even rezone some corner properties to a neighbourhood commercial zone that only permits a handful of uses like corner stores or coffee shops.
The less homogenous a neighbourhood is the better it is for everyone. Unless you like being a slave to your car and driving 15 minutes to the store when you forgot milk.
I see you've never lived and worked in a pleasant walkable community
What do you mean by "others"?
Other businesses
That's why you set limits and have laws/zoning that allow some things and not others. It doesn't have to be all or nothing.
no, it won’t. where did you get that idea from?
Absolutely ruined, dreadful and downright hostile these mixed streets
mixed
See, that's where you trigger the Karens
If this ain't Delaware... Every time I drive there it's like some Vivarium shit
This is my entire county in Missouri.
Its all suburbs and highway fast food interchanges
Levittown vibes
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