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New documents filed Monday, February 26 reveal that videogame giant Nintendo is taking action against the creators of the popular emulator tool Yuzu.

The copyright infringement filing, from Nintendo of America, states that the Yuzu tool (from developer Tropic Haze LLC) illegally circumvents the software encryption and copyright protection systems of Nintendo Switch titles, and thus facilitates piracy and infringes copyright under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA).

Nintendo alleges that Tropic Haze's free Yuzu emulator tool unlawfully allows pirated Switch games to be played on PCs and other devices, bypassing Nintendo's protection measures.

The official Yuzu website suggests that the tool is to be used with software you yourself own: "You are legally required to dump your games from your Nintendo Switch" — but it's common knowledge, that this is not how these tools are primarily used.

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[–] Macaroni_ninja@lemmy.world 127 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They should go one step further and ban the programming language as well the emulator was created in. That will show them!

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Wootz@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What about a technology permit, so you're only allowed to develop technologized products if you get a permit from the Ministry of Proprietary Technology.

[–] sneezycat@sopuli.xyz 17 points 1 year ago

Great idea comrade, glory to Arstotzka!

Big Brother is developing

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[–] nivenkos@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

The EU's AI Act isn't far from this really. Regulating the development of AI so much, it'd be like if they regulated compilers to stop GNU back in the day.

[–] ponchow8NC@lemmynsfw.com 10 points 1 year ago

Why stop there? Just ban everything that isn't Nintendo. That'll give em the old 1-2

[–] JustUseMint@lemmy.world 64 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Thanks for the Streisand effect Nintendo. Hadn't even heard of this until now. Now I'm downloading everything, and I'll be donating to the devs if possible. And telling my friends to do the same. I will continue not giving you money for over 10 years now.

Eat shit.

[–] u_tamtam@programming.dev 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I agree with the sentiment and everything, but the whole gaming console industry has gone to crap after they started putting hard drives/storage in them with the goal of needing you to be online and not owning anything anymore. They are all equally despicable for that. Which makes emulation even more essential, just for preserving those games into the future when the online front will inexorably shut down.

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[–] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't boast of your 10-year track record, but my next 10 years started today. I canceled my Nintendo online and I'm selling my switch. Fuck Nintendo

[–] JustUseMint@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

The best time to boycott those pricks was 15 years ago. The next best time is today.

[–] clmbmb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 55 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is why I will never buy a Nintendo console. I'm about to buy a Steam Deck... call me biased.

[–] IllNess@infosec.pub 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Download Yuzu now, sideload later. Just in case.

[–] AbsurdityAccelerator@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's an open source project. It's always going to be out there. I am gonna go fork the repo just for the hell of it right now.

[–] IllNess@infosec.pub 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If Nintendo wins, the Github page and the website page will probably shutdown.

Forking it now is a good idea.

[–] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It will be forked to a thousand other platforms, including private git repositories hosted locally. That cat is out of the bag and fortunately there's not a damn thing they can do about it

[–] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 year ago

Forking it now is a good idea.

Specifically, to a different repo hosting provider, or a server you control

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[–] edifier@feddit.it 46 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nintendo makes me want to emulate more and more

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[–] sirico@feddit.uk 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Might as well set the groundwork to make it easier to shut down any emulators for the new console. Can't have old steam deck and others taking the handheld market

[–] Fake4000@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

From what I understood, is that the team's Patreon page is a means of making financial gains of emulating the Switch. This could be the reason why Nintendo is suing.

Vanced NFT memories.

[–] CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Well Vanced was a lot different, they were actually redistributing code from YouTube. They were asking to be sued and they got off really easy.

Whereas here, no code is being used afaik. They don’t even include the keys for the decryption for the console. So the only thing this can do is: decrypt game files once provided keys and then run an emulated graphics pipeline and logic process for said game.

Now I can see an argument about how Yuzu is specifically built to emulate the Switch which is a current product. Which makes this sketchy. But also it’s an emulator. What’s better is that breaking the law is not required to use the emulator. You can get your own rom rips and keys and use them with the emulator which gives it a legal purpose as a 3rd party application.

This is Nintendo just trying to scare them Id bet. Not a zero chance that Yuzu could lose though.

[–] fraksken@infosec.pub 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's the crowd funding site for Yuzu legal fees?

[–] nintendiator@feddit.cl 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The official Yuzu website suggests that the tool is to be used with software you yourself own: “You are legally required to dump your games from your Nintendo Switch” — but it’s common knowledge, that this is not how these tools are primarily used.

Yeah, so what?

It's, legally speaking, not Yuzu's domain to regulate what I can lawfully do within my own home with hardware I bought , or not. It's not even Nintendon't's domain, and they are literally a Yakuza branch.

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[–] Luckaneer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 year ago

I wonder if they're going after Switch emulators now because the emulation capability is matching the product lifecycle, and that the patreon page makes the Yuzu team legally targetable.

If we're in for a repeat of GC -> Wii in the sense of the Wii being a more powerful GC, then Yuzu is potentially already close to being able to emulate the next gen Nintendo console out of the gate.

If that is the case, that's just par for the course when you're dealing with nearly decade old hardware.

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 13 points 1 year ago

Someone sue Nintendo for gatekeeping.

[–] anyone_yun@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] anyone_yun@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fuck you Nintendo, nobody should give you a dime

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