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[–] meldroc@lemmy.world 98 points 2 years ago (11 children)

And despite security recommendations, too many IT depts still force password resets every 90 days...

And people confronted with this change their password from "p@55w0rd!1" to "p@55w0rd@2". Yep extra-secure!

[–] TheGoldenGod@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago

At some point most security recommendations are self-defeating.

[–] chrischryse@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I work in the IT section of a bank and they force a change every 30 days and can only have an 8 character password no more no less 🙃

[–] HurlingDurling@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago

Seems like a job for Bobby tables

[–] nomadjoanne@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Ideally we'd all use password managers, but I'm aware 99% of peoole don't. Even with one, it's frankly a pain in the butt to be nagged about changing it. "Man, my passwords are 20 random characters. I don't need yo reset ot unless you've had a breach."

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[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A job I quit about 6mos ago required monthly changes. It was awful. And, yes, it absolutely led to me just incrementing a number at the end. I knew it was time to quit when I was about to hit double digit numbers.

[–] Nikel23@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

you're saying not to hold a job for more than 10 months?

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

It was a joke.

But also, holding a shitty toxic job for 10mos took a mental health toll.

But also, I don't know, in some cases that might be good advice. Since 2020 I've changed jobs every 6-10mos and I'm making triple what I made in 2019, so that's nice.

[–] jbloggs777@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 2 years ago

@278 and going strong, across 7 companies. One time, just to mix things up, I used an exclamation mark instead. It was exhilerating. /s

[–] The_v@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Some IT guys have caught on to this and require 2 digits difference.

So "ThisJobSucks#11" becomes "ThisJobSucks#22"

[–] psilocybin@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 2 years ago (13 children)

How would they know how many digits changed? They don't store the password in cleartext.

Right?

...

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well they don't need to store it to a drive. You just entered your old password in order to login and authorise your password change.

It'll still be in memory against your session.

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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

{Sitename}+{SaLt}+{yymmdd of password change} easy peasy

[–] Narjah@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

I college we had to change our password every semester. Guess who added the semester number onto the end of their password. Hint: everyone.

Same as a government job that required monthly password changes. Well, at least those people had more security than the post-it note on the monitor people

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[–] Rusty@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago

Hey, how do you know my password?

[–] tool@r.rosettast0ned.com 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And despite security recommendations, too many IT depts still force password resets every 90 days...

It could be for contractual or for insurance reasons. We have some contracts with government agencies that require it, and our cyberinsurance also does. Even though NIST has been recommending for years to do long passphrase + MFA and no reset unless you suspect compromise.

So yeah, the reason behind this might not be just plain incompetence.

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[–] Stuka@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

The worst is when you have a bunch of independent systems that all have their own login info, all configured by the dame IT department, all with different forced reset timers.

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[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 46 points 2 years ago (12 children)

Who still isn't using a password manager?

[–] jetsetdorito@lemmy.world 56 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The most infuriating part is when this happens while using a password from a password manager

[–] TheGoldenGod@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The fact this happens is infuriating. 😣

[–] pulverizedcoccyx@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Then you finally do the password change, go to login and now the new password doesn't work because you copied it to clipboard and overwrote it somehow in that small time frame goddamn shit! I always win+r and put it there until I know everything is all good.

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[–] Thassodar@lemm.ee 21 points 2 years ago (3 children)

What if I were to tell you my password manager password is the most vulnerable of all?

Nobody would guess it's hunter2.

[–] criticon@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I only see ******* when you type hunter2

[–] Thassodar@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago
[–] jetsetdorito@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You should really upgrade to hunter3

[–] Thassodar@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago

But how did you see it? I used the spoiler tag

/s

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Mine is bigboipassword123. Can't dictionary attack it cuz boi isn't in the dictionary.

[–] ImFresh3x@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago
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[–] totallynotarobot@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I promise you that does not help.

I suspect a large number of these incidents are due to the password field in the login page allowing fewer characters than the field in the sign up page, so the password gets truncated. A couple of help desk meat shields have confirmed that for me, but mostly I think this because it seems to fix itself if I use a shorter password.

How short, you ask? Who tf knows! They sure as shit won't tell you! Just spend the next 20 minutes trying shit til it works, because you have nothing better to do with your time!

[–] codapine@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My company doesn't tell you what the AD policy is for changing your domain logon password but windows will just tell you that it doesn't meet the policy. What IS the password policy you ask?

Well it's uh... 🤷‍♂️

Try again!

[–] totallynotarobot@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I am annoyed on your behalf.

I've had goons tell me they can't tell me the character max because of "security"

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[–] pulverizedcoccyx@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

My parents. All written down on paper in handy notebooks for anyone that breaks in. Two entire lives and everything in them just there for the taking.

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[–] 001100010010@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] TheGoldenGod@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

If it helps, I think we’re all in this picture at some point lol.

[–] KalloFox34@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And that’s why I generate my passwords randomly.

Thank you Bitwarden.

[–] totallynotarobot@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

So do I. This still happens.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ahh, so you all also shop at target online, eh?

[–] x4740N@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I'm guessing this is american target and not Australian target

[–] DaveNa@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

Why is that? Couldn't find anything on Google.

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