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[–] errer@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This same group has been pushing this theory for a decade with no direct evidence. Each paper is just confirmation bias in action.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Some amateur types have been pushing this for decades with zero evidence, but as the article says, a legit pair from Caltech finally found some circumstancial evidence it could be possible, and this expanded group is just throwing more on the pile. I think it's just one of those "Well...let's say it's possible, here's what we'd be looking at for evidence..." kind of deals.

[–] TheControlled@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Back in my day it was called Planet X, god dammit!

[–] JamesTBagg@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Because back in my (our) day Pluto was number, so Planet X worked. Planet VIIII doesn't look as good.

[–] 5wim@slrpnk.net 22 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] Klear@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That means "Boy who is not able to satisfactorily explain what a Hrung is, nor why it should choose to collapse on Betelgeuse Seven". I don't see how that applies here.

[–] 5wim@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 year ago
[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Still trying to figure out what the hell it is

[–] Gabu@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

VIIII is a valid way to write 9, though antiquated. If you look at very old clocks, you'll see they all use this notation.

[–] 5wim@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Didn't realize homie was an antiquated clock. (Assumed the usage of Roman numerals, like in the references being made, in which case I don't believe the clumsy VIIII only used on old clocks would really be valid.)

[–] TheControlled@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

This made me really laugh. Thought I would let you know 😂

[–] Gabu@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

VIIII wasn't exclusive to clocks, that's the only long-lasting example we still have access to.

[–] 5wim@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Your point is that VIIII was ever used in history? Happily conceded.

[–] Opisek@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The reason clocks use it, is to not make it look visually unbalanced. Most often they write 4 as IIII. I find it infuriating to break such a simple rule though.

But also, I've never ever seen VIIII.

[–] Gabu@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Julius Caesar's memoir of war in Gaul makes use of VIIII, for instance. You're right that it's much rarer, but was still used contemporarily and in modern times.

[–] JamesTBagg@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah yeah. Same same.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Yes, Ix, let's start naming these planets like its classic SciFi.

[–] TheControlled@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I know. I wasn't being serious.

[–] Syn_Attck@lemmy.today 0 points 1 year ago

Nibiru. Not Pluto.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I remember that from my childhood! My mother convinced me it was probably a bad science fiction movie

[–] subignition@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A new planet in a distant orbit, you say?
In before the signal is older than the universe itself.

[–] Charred@feddit.it 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The downvotes are not getting the reference smh.

Science compels us to blow up the sun!

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I do not get the reference, but I can tell it IS a reference, so throwing an upvote on it lol

[–] subignition@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You should forget anything you've read in this thread and play Outer Wilds ASAP. And you should go into it as blind as possible. Trust me; you only get to experience it for the first time once.

[–] Skua@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Invite me to the jam, I swear I can whistle well

[–] ceiphas@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just call it Rupert already!

[–] Hupf@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago
[–] kbin_space_program@kbin.run 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We can call the new planet Cerberus. On honor of Pluto.

[–] massive_bereavement@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wouldn't we then confuse it with Pluto's moon? Imagine a family of poor future Solar system travellers realizing they got the tickets for the moon, not the planet.

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't Pluto's moon Charon?

[–] 9bananas@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

pluto has more than one moon ;)

[–] kbin_space_program@kbin.run 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah but this aren't planets. We could always just reuse the name Pluto. Then all the old books are right again.

[–] accideath@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

That’s Pluto erasure. Pluto isn’t a planet but it’s damn well part of our solar system.

[–] teft@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Kerberos and Cerberus while referencing the same thing are spelled differently.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I find it amusing that we can prove the existence of black holes thousands of light years away and glean the state of the universe at its earliest moments, but we can't decide whether there's a rock big enough to count as a planet floating around the inside rim of the Oort Cloud.

[–] Audacious@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago

It might be a miscalculation of orbital body models, which has happened before. Urbain Le Verrier was able to predict Neptune's existence. Then he tried to predict a planet between Mercury and the Sun, because the current Newtonian physics wasn't lining up to observations, a similar situation to how Neptune was found. Then Einstein's work on gravity modeled the orbital bodies more accurately, ending the debate if there was another planet closer to the sun than Mercury. Just a different food-for-thought point of view, as I don't know what the answer is obviously.

[–] dezmd@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago
[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

Science and history are fun because we keep adding new information and proving / disproving theories.

[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The team acknowledges that other forces could be at play that might explain the behavior that they simulated but suggest they are less likely.

Space Whales

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago

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