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*hearing in comments certains parts aren't foss

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[–] EarthlingHazard@lemm.ee 102 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I think it's better to link to their github since the website has references to a premium sister project that isn't FOSS: https://github.com/languagetool-org/languagetool

I haven't used this myself but I'm curious if anyone likes it

[–] exu@feditown.com 28 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I like it very much and thanks to the various extensions it's also trivial to use in Firefox and Libreoffice.

[–] moitoi@feddit.de 7 points 2 years ago

It works on Firefox/Fennec/other forks on Android.

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

At last the browser extension is closed source. I don't know the others

https://beehaw.org/comment/893089

[–] mac@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago

I self host a server. It works on my laptop and android. I like it, but some of the suggestions are bad.

Haven't used grammarly in years, so I can't compare.

[–] Skimmer@lemmy.zip 71 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Their extension isn't open source anymore, see here, so I don't recommend it personally, especially with how sensitive the data it collects is, its basically a keylogger, so trust is super important imo.

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If they don't trust you with the source, you can trust them with your data.

[–] BaconIsAVeg@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

While I appreciate the sentiment, isn't that effectively the same as "if the restaurant won't give you the complete recipe for their pizza sauce, how do you know they're not trying to poison you?"

Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

[–] snek_boi@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Except a restaurant is not asking to log every word of yours in exchange for pizza.

[–] wAkawAka@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Thanks for pointing out! This tool seems to look and work awesome, but non-foss browser extension is an instant 'NO'...

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[–] ddnomad@infosec.pub 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Texts are securely stored

Right, must be military grade encryption

[–] ReallyKinda@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago (5 children)
[–] gelberhut@lemdro.id 21 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Note about deepl: according to their EULA they collect all what you type there and use it for training their algorithm. They are much smaller that Google and co, what makes me thinking that your data could be more "visible" in the training results.

The service as such is good, though.

[–] WhiteHotaru@feddit.de 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think this is only the case with the free version. Source: I worked with some big German companies which wanted to have an autotranslate function for their software. DeepL was the top choice, because the quality is very good and the data protection agreements for the paid service left no questions.

[–] gelberhut@lemdro.id 3 points 2 years ago

Most probably this is correct. One can say the same about most enterprise targeting offers, for example by Microsoft.

People who consider it for private usage should make decisions knowing such details.

[–] moitoi@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

EULA they collect all what you type there and use it for training their algorithm

This isn't the case for some specific corporate contract for the pro version. But, it's not publicly available.

[–] ReallyKinda@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Interesting thought about the visibility

[–] gelberhut@lemdro.id 0 points 2 years ago

Disclaimer: this is a personal impression/thoughts, I could be dramatically wrong here.

[–] WhiteHotaru@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They have total different use cases. DeepL is a translator, language tool checks for style and grammar.

I use both frequently and both do a very good job. I have a prime membership of language tool and I like it. Both are German companies and operate under GDPR.

[–] ReallyKinda@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Deepl’s “write” tool (the one I linked) gives style suggestions

[–] WhiteHotaru@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago

I didn’t know that.

[–] moitoi@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago

It's not bad at all, and multilingual. I like it as I can write in multiple language making less mistakes.

[–] zoe@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

off topic: is deepl down or something ? thing doesn't respond :/

edit: now works

[–] Sivilian@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Just wish there was a language tool keyboard for android

[–] moitoi@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You can use it in Firefox/Fennec/other forks on Android. It's better than nothing.

[–] Sivilian@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 years ago

I am but it would be nice to have it in other apps on my phone

[–] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Interestingly I knew about Languagetool long before I got to constantly see Grammarly ads. With the right tools it's useful for checking latex etc.

[–] WndyLady@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago
[–] Navarian@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I use this often when I'm writing articles, it's incredibly easy to use and I've yet to have any issues with it.

I use it on Waterfox, for what it's worth. Absolutely recommend.

[–] Jumper775@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Navarian@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

When I switched from FF to WF it was lighter on system resources, faster and cut out a lot of the telemetry included in FF.

I've not used Firefox for well over a year now, so I can't speak to that still being the case, but those were the main draws for me.

[–] mac@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

I switched off of waterfox and back to firefox with arkenfox user.js when I noticed they were behind on a security update.

[–] TalesFromTheKitchen@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

It's working pretty well for me with integration into Firefox, (libre)office and you can decide if you want to run your own server locally, or rely on their server as a premium subscription.

[–] TwoGems@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I wonder how grammarly desktop is for privacy

[–] cRazi_man@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Their whole service is built to collect everything you type.

[–] BaconIsAVeg@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

Literally a key logger with extra steps.