It seems like the BG3 devs tried to make a good game and hoped it'd be popular vs other devs who try to make a profitable game and hope it's good.
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Baldur’s Gate 3 is a story-rich, party-based RPG set in the universe of Dungeons & Dragons, where your choices shape a tale of fellowship and betrayal, survival and sacrifice, and the lure of absolute power. (Website)
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That's exactly it. Pretty much every five meters you think "Whoever created this actually gave a shit about the whole product". It never feels like things are worse than they should be, or that they could have been better with a little effort.
It's the kind of game where everyone who worked on it can be very proud. Do you think the average Blizzard developer these days can say the same?
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Trusting your audience to appreciate the depth of work that isn't just flashy graphics, plus respecting players by not filling it with micro transactions.
People are desperate for games with some heart.
I’m so worried that starfield is going to be the opposite of BG3.
As a huge lover of all thing Fallout, I heard and read a lot about Starfield, then saw some videos and was and absolutely hyped. SPACE FALLOUT. Then I saw the game play and I hope I’m wrong but man it looks like they just took new vegas and slapped a space skin on it.
Don’t just go for the flashy graphics upgrade 😭
I'm worried about it too. So much so that I'm going to wait for reviews. I'm expecting it'll be a buggy mess for at launch anyway, considering it's Bethesda, the delays, and the unusually high minimum specs listed.
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They had massive success with Divinity, the ground work already laid out. They bought rights to a big IP, kept to their Divinity formula and actually spent on marketing. Plus it happened to come at the right time when people needed the RPG itch scratched.
D&D is also as big as its ever been, especially with a latent audience of viewers who maybe don't play very often, and at a time when there aren't enough DMs for everyone who wants to play to find a table. Plus, Baldur's Gate is prime 30-year-nostalgia-cycle bait for millennial+ PC gamers.
And the recent D&D movie was basically free advertising for Larian.
Less of it than Hasbro anticipated, though.
There's pretty big overlap between the kind of people who play PC games or even a lot of console games and who may be interested in this other genre of games, and especially the biggest name in that genre. It didn't translate to the general public, though.
Which is crazy to me because the DnD movie was better than both Avatar movies IMO and those are 2 of the top 3 grossing movies of all time
Moviegoers are a fickle audience.
"Dungeons & Dragons" just doesn't have the kind of appeal outside of geek circles that it does within it. There's still a stigma there, even if it's lessened, and different from what it used to be.
And, like, you need a lot more people to show up to a theatre to make money on a summer blockbuster than you do logging in to Twitch to watch you play a game.
Honestly, the BG3 PS5 launch may do more for D&D than anything else in the last few years. Critical Role, and shows like it, have cracked the door open and made 5E a big seller, and that's naturally aided the BG3 PC launch immensely, but the current hype around BG3 could push sales of the console version of the game into a whole order of magnitude more hands that have never ever considered even looking at a d20. No one is calling the game D&D BG3, so it won't have that stigma that the movie did. It does lack the level of D&D branding that BG1 and 2 had, but anyone who starts the game and starts looking up things online about it will come across the name repeatedly.
The game will further break down the walls. The potential for this to come full circle and boost Live Play views and D&D book sales is not small.
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Indeed, DnD has been catching my interest but have never known any players, and jumping in the DM role is daunting. BG3 lets me play something very close to DnD without any hassle.
Exactly this
Been wanting to play dnd but i only know one person who dms
Exactly, it's no surprise it's blown up really. Doesn't take a team of analysts to figure it out.
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I purchased BG3 after I heard that the devs did not include micro transactions. I simply purchased it to support the devs, I had no intentions of playing it. But, I have a Steam Deck and decided to download it and just try it out. I am 30 hours into the game and I don’t have the physical or mental ability to put this game down. Please send help. Thank you Larian for taking video games back to their roots.
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I’m observing a few-year-long pattern where players’ demands shift between better tech (visuals, new ways to play) and deeper narrative. We’re now at the peak of where people expect deeper games with latest tech, and Larian -maybe knowingly- hit that jackpot.
The game will be remembered as the best of the decade, how wonderful.
This game gives me the same vibes as Bioware games like Mass Effect and Dragon Age, I was craving for something like this, without the microtransactions and gambling bullshit infesting most modern games.
I'm not fond of DnD mechanics but it's ok, it's worth it nonetheless, BG3 is truly spectacular.
The BioWare vibes are exactly why I’m loving this game so much. Larian was never in my radar before, because I just can’t get into isometric games for some reason, but they definitely are now. Whatever they put out next, I’m probably going to get.
I didn't even know who Larian was before BG3 blew up lol, I can't get into isometric either nor turn-based combat, I'm mainly a MMORPG player, but when I saw reviews for this game and AAA devs shitting on it I decided to buy it and give it an honest try.
I fell in love with it immediately, still struggling a bit with mechanics but I'm learning :D
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You’ve got probably a decade before their next big title so settle in for the wait lol
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It was all fun and games with CD project red until Cyberpunk came along. Let's see how Larian handles explosive growth.
Larian have already had major hits though: Divinity Original Sin 2 is more popular on Steam than huge hits like Sea of Thieves, Hogwarts Legacy, Hollow Knight, The Forest, GTAIV, and Borderlands 3.
BG3 is already a strong indicator that Larian have a strong identity as a developer and a commitment to quality.
CDPR’s biggest issue was investors as they were pressured to get the game out to reap dividends whereas Larian are private and the owner and biggest shareholder is also the director for their games. It’s a rare thing in our industry today and, so long as Swen Vincke can keep a hold of the reigns, we can be relatively hopeful for their future.
Public trading ruins every company in every industry, not only gaming, lets hope Larian doesn't fall in that trap.
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Cyberpunk wasn't a bad game after the patches, it just should've definitely been delayed and polished more. But they boldy went for a new ambitious IP in a genre and gameplay they haven't done before.
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I personally think that 2077 is a great game. It was overshadowed by legitimate problems at launch, but on PC, I was not disappointed. I really enjoyed every minute of it. The world that they were able to recreate in 3D is so detailed and fun to explore. If anyone was looking forward to that game and hasn't played it since launch, try it out. It is very good.
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CD:PR made way too many unrealistic promises during development. It was already obvious they'd never be able to fulfill all of them, and the bugginess etc. came on top. I really hope Larian sticks with the EA (=Early Access) model, because it protects against exactly these shenanigans. I wouldn't have bought BG3 on launch day if the EA reviews weren't as stellar.
If you're like me and wondering what was ever good about the Electronic Arts model, here it means Early Access
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I've just completed my first playthrough and it's going down as a top 3 favorite for me. Can still move up but Ocarina of Time and God of War are pretty dug in. Already theorycraftong what my evil playthrough will look like. Wrote down soooo many ideas from this game in my DM notebook as well.
Doing my evil playthrough now and it hurts my soul. Never had this problem betraying the brick walls in skyrim.
Well, I decided to roll a nature loving ranger who speaks to animals and very early on in the game I absolutely wrecked a very notable animal npc. Whelp, I'm evil now.
Please tell me it wasn't Scratch! I make sure to play fetch with and pet that good boy every time I return to camp!
Oh no! Which one? Not the, um, bear, right?
That's a good question... I knew it was in early access but I kept just hearing negative shit about it and it fell off my radar until it just exploded again because of the finalized release. The things I see it praised for it tells me all y'all youngsters need to get on GOG and get the old classics and see just how much better those games are to most shit that comes out now. The old farts like me want those, but to look like games these days. BG3 did that. And it's amazing.
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Ubisoft: we love it. Let's do it. But also let's figure out how to add microtransactions first.
Also Ubisoft: Interesting characters, good story, engaging and complex gameplay? Well I think what the players really want is to climb someplace high to unlock more of the map and slowly sneak after someone for 20 minutes while they randomly walk around the city. That sounds good let's do that for every game.
Let’s be honest, they could have put out a large stinking turd with a “BG3” sticker on top and I would have bought it.
I’m so happy it turned out to be really good!
I think the point out that Larian knew this too, and used the guaranteed market to invest in content, not profit.
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It's, pretty damn easy... It's an RPG where my actions actually feel like there's weight to them. There's just no room for turning my brain off, normally I'd consider that a bad thing... But here... it's just so damn engaging
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