M1ch431

Well, as it stands the vast majority of the world is coerced or propagandized into consenting to governments and regulators for them to do nothing and let disaster manifest. They are mostly all blissfully unaware.

Give it a couple years of Trump's reign to see how people react to somebody taking away their rights before you completely give into cynicism and close yourself to the possibility of garnering hope.

Your personal choices are your own decision, but I do think it's admirable for you to claim personal responsibility.

Though, shaming or judging others for wanting to have a family and continue their genetic line is not something I advocate for.

Your small steps to reduce your impact simply aren't enough. Even if they were bigger than they are, it still doesn't put you on a pedestal to look down on others for their decisions. You are free to do so, but you won't get my approval.

We need worldwide change. Vastly reducing animal agriculture and non-essential industry is imperative.

Choosing to not consume meat doesn't solve the major issue. It doesn't make even make a small dent and virtue signalling about your choices doesn't do anything either.

People buy this stuff because it's usually cheap and readily available. It's cheap and readily available because there is almost no regulation.

Slowly phasing out factory farming and animal agriculture and replacing it with lab-grown meat is necessary. We also need to explore non-meat protein sources more seriously, the options that exist just suck, they are expensive (besides tofu), and many products contain common allergens, like soy and wheat.

I'm seeing a bit of a shift in others' attitudes. I'm usually everywhere discussion is found online. Things just seem to have gotten more real to people and that seems to be what is prompting this. Plus the propaganda from the usual places just isn't hitting the same.

Most people cope with reality by escaping or distracting themselves - e.g. into various hobbies, interests, habits. It doesn't really help that media and games just kinda suck anymore and hobbies/habits are more expensive than ever.

I'm doing my best to soften the hearts of those who engage in feckless browbeating, as you aptly described it. Usually behind the veneer of hate and hard feelings is a very sensitive and vulnerable person who is seeking rather harmless things (like validation, approval, camaraderie, community). Of course, that's not always the case - sometimes people are caught up into hate and bad faith without even realizing it, and some absolutely do intend on spreading hate and operating in bad faith.

Regardless, I just do my best to clear things up for everyone and it seems to help. I don't delude myself into thinking my impact is very large, but I do intend on helping others in a general sense - and I know I have helped many.

Well, fortunately Trump is doing a pretty good job at radicalizing everybody in the US (and outside the US) against the status quo/world order and those who uphold it.

Hopefully we will never resort to that sort of violence to address our problems though.

If this was about what personally upsets or offends me, and not the fate of the world and everybody who lives on it, maybe I'd agree with you.

I don't block others, just block me if I bother you so much to accuse me of stalking you.

If a mindset or perspective is vulnerable to the delusions and other breaks from reality of others, perhaps we need to work on expressing ourselves with clarity and confidence - and gather facts for people to consume.

Trust me, in a neutral arena, the truth will always resonate with the majority of people. I'd say the fediverse has pockets that are fairly neutral compared to other discussion boards/websites.

Delusion usually starts from a place of persecution, real or perceived gaslighting, and paranoia and concern. We can address the gaslighting if it does exist, and ease their concern.

It's the same thread. I'm not following you. I have never talked to you before the past hour to the best of my knowledge.

I'd like to kindly request that you not drag anyone down with you in the process. I respect your right to feel the way you do though, and I wish suicide was more accessible and humane for individuals to explore.

Doesn't change the fact that we can scale those vertical farms tomorrow and power them however the fuck we'd like to (in the short-term) to mitigate disaster.

And they should be free to do so. We can still lay the facts bare - so when they are ready to face reality, they are available to them.

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I should've just reported. D'oh.

Continue spinning the tales of the rich, it's no sweat off my back to call your fantasies out. Nobody wants to live in a world that is scarce and violent. Next.