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Oh look, no argument, like at all, none, nada. Only arrogant ridicule and ad hominem, as if I havent laid that bare a couple comments ago. At least try to show that you are a sincere subject. How boring.

what an unhinged reaction

Delivered as ordered. Here to impress you.

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Thanks, always a class act and so helpful. And that‘s all you got? Who cares, lol.

Should be fine to call you out as the dipshit, head roach and dictator cock sucker that you are, wouldn‘t you agree? Or does that only apply to „others“? Maybe we should just get rid of you and this deranged community?

What are your thoughts on this? Or on any of the other arguments and questions I‘ve put forward, annoyed, but at least in good faith? You haven’t answered one.

If you want to lead such an important community, maybe lead by example and be better thän the people you „document“? Don‘t you want to act as transparent as possible, after all, we need your point of view, so the unhinged commentators actually have something to refer to, instead of projecting? This can only increase post quality!

goooaaat, you dipshit, don‘t chicken out, what are you afraid of? Aren‘t you rationally and morally superior? Bring forth some kind of intellectually honest thought. I allow you to be unhinged, as well. Show us your true colours!

E: I‘m serious, tho, in as far as I‘m quite disappointed, that although I tried to engage in (IMO) serious criticism, you offered not one serious exchange. You can reject that as unserious projection, or whatever you need to not actually engage, but please realise, that you turn out to be deeply unserious, yourself, as you don‘t even manage to answer the most basic questions about your own stated opinions or the behaviour of your users. And that does paint a picture.

I was especially talking about blocking lemmy instances, but wasn‘t very clear on that. I‘m with you. Their conclusion was to block the goof‘s instance. By your logic then, they‘d have to stop consuming media period.

Yes yes, I wasn‘t very clear here. I didn‘t argue for RT, idgaf about them. I‘m talking about blocking lemmy instances, because of ideologic dissonances. GL, fellow goof.

Jetzt haste mich zwar zitiert, aber bist gar nicht auf den Inhalt eingegangen. Also in den meisten Einwanderungsländern (welche sind das, btw?) wird schlicht und einfach strukturelle Benachteiligung und komplizierte Bürokratie erwartet? Was?

Auch nette Allgmeinplätze die du da raussabberst, aber noch mal, warum kommentierst du explizit so, dass systemische Probleme auf Individuen abgewälzt werden? Laberst was von qualifizierten Kräften, aber verwährst Ihnen das Ankommen. Du bist ein kleiner Rassist, nicht wahr?

Every large state actor uses media as a propaganda tool, I‘m sure you know that. Blocking yourself to only get fed one version is … well, how about you build some media literacy and sharpen your critical thinking skills, instead. That way you‘ll be able to really decide for yourself. How long did western media parrot IDF propaganda? Oh, they still do? Damn ol‘ reality!

Who are the other belligerents?

Das sind alles Dinge, die strukturell erschwert werden hierzulande, werter Herr IchMachMirDieWeltWieSieMirGefällt. Konzentrier dich doch mal auf solche Aspekte. Ist natürlich einfach sonst auf all die Menschen zu zeigen, die diesem Standard nicht entsprechen und Ihnen nachher Unwillen oder Faulheit zu unterstellen, nicht wahr, mein Lieber?

Here you go, fishing for trigger words. I‘m certain you know some of the accusations already, but for a myriad of reasons never seriously engaged with them. But you do seem to like making fun of the people bringing them up.

So, tell me, where are your doubts or holes in your own narrative and I might be willing to provide you with a vantage point from my perspective, so as a result we actually can have a sincere exchange. 

Until now, tho, I haven‘t gotten the impression, that you are asking in good faith and I‘m unwilling to enter debate bro territory.

Anyway, I answered OPs (rhetorical) question with well enough key words for you to start your own little reading endeavor. You don‘t need to be scared to become a tankie for actually reading stuff that‘s not western mainstream, since that „angle“ is supported by actual American scholars and journalists, already (if that makes it more approachable for you).

I like how you're calling people who post a pig shitting on itself as a "more serious people" 

Not sure exactly what your point is other then displaying your rotten character.

You‘re babysitting a community, that exists and thrives only to poke fun at another set of people they‘ve learned to disagree with, even dehumanizing them, wanting to get rid of them, and you‘re participating and replicating it. The justification is „documenting“, but all you‘re documenting is your very limited world view and your malice.

What’s a person to think of this kind of mindset? 

Tell me, because that‘s the purpose of this thread. 

And how are they ignorant exactly? 

Saying that ignorance creates fascism is extremely vague, that can mean anything. 

Hm, yes indeed, since ignorance implies a lack of knowledge, this might not be the most precise term. What’s observable here is more of a willful set of actions and beliefs that‘s actively fostered: dehumanization, tribalism, hate, bigotry, malevolance, eliminationism.

Ignorance goes along with that, but might be a step removed. Let‘s call it wilful ignorance then. What it leads to other than fascism? Maybe think about that yourself, instead of asking outsiders, that you don‘t take seriously anyway.

But how do any of these comments support your claim that liberalism is fascism? 

If you want a more serious discussion, we can certainly have one for a bit, you can start 

Good bait. Bad reading comprehension. You’re a troll and acting in bad faith. Let‘s discuss, once you grow up.

E: Earlier you said this, too bad you didn‘t expand on it:

I agree that the West looks at the world with a western lens and that is ignorant. 

What did you actually mean here? What is ignorant about it? What are the consequences? What is this „western lens“ actually doing with this community? And why are you running a community built on ignorance then? Classic Lib strategy of saying things that sound progressive, but upon closer inspection are empty shells to hide their ignorance?

Alright, there‘s no „questioning Ukraine‘s sovereignty“ by deadnaming it from my side. I already started leaving the „the“ out from other comments, so thanks for the English lesson, I appreciate it.

I forgot nothing, tho, I was rather describing a valid political analysis that offers an answer to OP‘s question, and the only one as it stands. It‘s a starting point, of course not the complete story.

There‘s also no gotcha to be had. Concluding with „Russia bad“, because they invaded Ukraine is, although true as a statement of fact, dishonest and overly simplistic. Downplaying or downright whitewashing the role of the USA is … lacking, at best.

@metallic_substance@lemmy.world calls the whole instance, or rather their users dipshits, has no argument, only ad hominem.

@finitebanjo@lemmy.world offers insults involving cocks, not sure what‘s up with that, but that sure is another ad hominem without any argument.

@finitebanjo@lemmy.world just doesn‘t take reality seriously, but thinks he‘s being clever by making fun of people that argue against capitalism.

@gabbath@lemmy.world has similar delusions about imperialism

Both are unserious people that have not a single original thing to offer, except ridicule towards more serious people.

I absolutely misread the comment about „the best way to nuke any lefty community“ by @Gsus4@feddit.nl and therefore edited it out of my original comment.

Anyway, the observation is, that this community is oozing with toxic behaviour, circlejerking on another group of people that they obviously don‘t even try to understand, but are afraid of and want to exlude or „get rid off“. Void of any arguments. This shit is what ignorant people do.

@goat@sh.itjust.works (you, mod) stays superficial in their reaction on the content itself only to construct a strawman about a group that wasn‘t mentioned with an argument that wasn‘t made. — but, this might have been an honest interpretation, alright.

Btw, goat, what is „ignorance“ in its political manifestation, if not the foundation of fascism? We should do better. You should do better. This place is a disgrace to any kind of intellectual discourse and the fediverse as a whole. You‘re modding a community driven by blind hatred.