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[–] grue@lemmy.world 11 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Which, even if Trump is right, (Putin respects Trump and won’t invade while he’s president), Zelensky knows that means Putin will invade again in 2028 after Trump’s term is over.

I realize that the first half of that is speaking about what Trump thinks (as opposed to you claiming it yourself) so this isn't me trying to contradict you, but I think it's important that we all keep in mind the actual reality of the situation:

  • Putin doesn't respect Trump in the slightest; Trump is his useful idiot.

  • To the extent that it's true that Putin wouldn't invade while Trump is president, it's only because (a) neutering the US by having his patsy as President achieves pretty much all the same geopolitical goals as creating a buffer state out of Ukraine does anyway, and (b) making Trump look good as a "peacemaker" is self-serving because it helps keep his patsy in place longer.

  • Trump's not leaving in 2028, unless he's dead.

I agree with Trump on one thing. We’re fucking around with World War 3, but Trump isn’t a peacemaker, he’s Chamberlain. Right down to berating the leaders who are asking for help to stop the aggressive country.

Trump's not Chamberlain either. He's Stalin, making a secret agreement with Hitler (Putin) to carve up Poland (Ukraine) like a thanksgiving turkey. (The analogy is a little awkward because Russia is playing the role of Germany in it instead of itself, but I was going by who attacked the country being carved up first.)

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago

Well said, even if you take Trumps argument at face value it makes absolutely no sense to agree with