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[–] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 288 points 3 days ago (12 children)

Let us not forget: it was the Democrat Party that once supported the formation of the KKK, pushed Jim Crow laws, and defended slavery

They like to conveniently forget that the parties had a flip. So yes, while the democrats IN NAME pushed all that abhorrent ideals, those democrats are the Republicans today.

[–] Doom@ttrpg.network 217 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Who cares about any of that.

Just ask who do the KKK vote for now

Obama? Harris? Clinton? Biden?

[–] tacobellhop@midwest.social 27 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Reminder that the Irish and the kkk are mortal enemies.

Ask around notre dame.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

A moment of silence for the chapel.

[–] gaael@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm not getting this one, would you like to explain what it's about?

[–] tacobellhop@midwest.social -2 points 2 days ago

Not really. Duck duck go it.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Trump, Trump, Jill Stein (David Duke doesnt like Israel)

[–] troybot@midwest.social 71 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Amy is correct. Therefore, we should take down all the monuments to the Confederates that those Democrats put up.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 days ago

I wonder if this could actually happen. Some of those local ballot measures are deliberately written in a confusing manner anyway. If someone managed to get "remove all democrat-placed statues prior to 1960" on a ballot in a red area I bet it'd pass.

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 45 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

And as I like to say, we used to prescribe cigarettes for asthma. The times will change.

Ive only ever met one modern Republican who has explicitly aknowlaged it. When he asked me "do you like any famous Republicans" I responded "Lincoln wasnt too bad and John Brown was amazing". He immediately responded "uhhh the Republicans used to be woke, the Democrats used to be the party of freedom".

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That was such a disingenuous comment. Literally relying on the peoples lack of history knowledge to distort the truth. It's fucking doublespeak.

Don't lie to my face and tell me I like it.

[–] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago

During the last election, billboards had signs up in my area saying exactly that: Republicans ended slavery blah blah blah. They just bank on the wide populace to not know the history of the parties.

[–] Apple87sagan@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Wish more people realized this. They actually still think they are the party of Lincoln.

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 days ago

The alr right shows have claimed to debunk that myth and that the Dems are the true racists. It's like gas lighting for the centrists/right-wing.

[–] Cheems@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

They conveniently deny that fact

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well, Newsweek is out as news. They should have followed up with factual history about how these parties switched. (Where are the whigs in all this?????)

America always being 2 party, in my own hindsight, should have been suspect. The world is not binary.

Not that I had control of when or where I was born.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 37 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

America has always been two-party (that's the inevitable game-theory result of how our elections are designed), but it hasn't always been the same two parties. When the Whigs were a thing, the Republican Party didn't exist yet.

They also realigned three or four times without changing names.

See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_parties_in_the_United_States

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

While that is the pop culture explanation it isn't quite right. In order for the parties to have flipped. The rural xenophobic bigots would have had to go to the Republican party. And the Republicans fascists would have had to have gone to the Democratic party.

The KKK and the bigots switched. The parties didn't really. The true irony being the KKK and Southern bigots were the huge influence on European fascists. But in the United States they were technically opposed simply because they had traditionally been in different political parties. But civil rights legislation brought about a realignment. Our ignorant xenophobic bigots and our fascist suddenly found themselves Brothers in Arms.

The party's polarized along the xenophobia and bigotry lines. But they didn't really switch.

[–] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Only one party is enacting fascism here and it's not the Democrats. Such delusion.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I didn't say otherwise. I literally implied that the xenophobic bigots and the fascists all joined together in the Republican Party. You need to work on reading comprehension I think.

[–] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The rural xenophobic bigots would have had to go to the Republican party.

That did happen

And the Republicans fascists would have had to have gone to the Democratic party.

This did not. So where did you say the opposite of what this means?

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Yes the whole point of that statement was pointing out that the latter didn't happen. It was a rhetorical statement. The framing before that statement made it quite obvious. Stating that in order for the parties to have switched. The fascists would have to leave the Republican party. Which anyone who is informed knows did not happen. You are agreeing with me while attacking me.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world -2 points 2 days ago

Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about

[–] lena@gregtech.eu 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago

More "they swapped ideals" a long time ago.