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[–] Filthmontane@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

California produces 10% of American agricultural needs. If they secede it would be way worse on the economy than these tariffs.

[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think if California were to secede, Oregon and Washington probably would too. A lot of blue states that border Canada would also probably Jump ship. New York and Michigan might secede too. Those 5 states make up almost 30% of America's economy and are the center of very lucrative industries like the movie industry, automotive industry, electronics and software industries, the global financial industry. Those 5 states would do just fine without the United States but the United states would be an unimportant backwater without them.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Those 5 states would do just fine without the United States but the United states would be an unimportant backwater without them.

well no, the US would still be 60-70% of the total US economy without them lmao.

[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 1 points 16 hours ago

An economy that exports what? Let's take Florida as an example. It produces a lot of fruit but the USA still imports most of it's fruit from Latin America. Florida's fruit feeds people, of course, but it doesn't make money for the nation as a whole because it gets eaten domestically. What fruit from Florida gets exported is nothing compared to what the USA imports. Compare that to a state like Michigan which produces cars, that get exported and sold domestically. Which state's products make America more relevant on the world stage? Disney is probably the most important thing in Florida for the rest of the world. Movies, TV shows, video games, and theme parks are all eaten up by a global audience and DeSantis treats Disney like shit because they are too "woke" I'm not saying the USA wouldn't exist without the 5 states I mentioned, I'm saying no one would care.

[–] 3dmvr@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

depending on which produce item its significantly higher

[–] Ckjazz@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I'm genuinely curious on how realistic this is... I can't imagine it's a simple process, but like what would need to happen for California to become it's own country?

the same thing for texas to become it's own country, that said, it's not happening.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

To do so legally, Constitutional Convention. 2/3 of states would have to agree to let it go. And everyone would have to hammer out what happens to federal assets inside the state.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

There is basically zero chance they successfully secede. There is however a slightly above zero chance they seriously try.

California trying to secede would be stupid enough to make Trump look like a top mensa candidate.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

At the moment, California is taking signatures for studying a "CALexit" plan. It is about 500,000 signatures by July for a successful petition. After that, California starts to study the costs, opportunities, logistics, and other aspects of leaving the union.