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[–] WuceBrillis@lemm.ee 49 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Americans have been fucked from the start, Hitler talked a lot about how he was inspired by Americans way of treating colored people.

Then they beat Hitler, but took all his scientists. They included rocket builders, but they also included political science and propagandistists.

The Nazis literally rebuilt in America, and took 71 years to show the people they were there, and 85 years to gain control of the largest military in the world.

Then they had an interesting civil liberties fight for less than a decade, before the Nazi republicans just started the war on drugs as a way of shutting them down and arrested / killed everyone involved.

I simply don't trust Americans to fix this problem themselves. It is my dire belief that the entire world will have to invade America, like we did with Germany.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 30 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It is my dire belief that the entire world will have to invade America, like we did with Germany.

More likely, the rest of the world will look the other way while America cannibalizes itself.

[–] WuceBrillis@lemm.ee 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I hope thats enough, but i am afraid that while America cannibalises itself, the oligarchic Nazis will just gain more control over the ashes.

[–] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

That basically is their gameplan. Project2025 aims to turn the US into a christofascist nation, whereas the techbro "Butterfly...something" plan is attempting to dissolve the government and split the nation into corporate serfdoms.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 1 points 4 days ago

I am hoping America splits into pieces, with Europe supporting the democratic bits. In the long run, that might allow Free America to rid itself of conservative baggage and become a genuinely shining city. Here's hoping that we get a decent ending to this sordid tale.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Er... not to douse the flames of my own deliverance or anything but you do remember about the nukes, right?

[–] WuceBrillis@lemm.ee 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, everybody has nukes now. We can't stop any evil people from doing anything, because they got nukes. Can't stop russias dictator, can't stop chinas dictator, can't stop the American dictator.

How long will it be before insane amounts of money was able to buy up Europe as well?

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Yep that's pretty much how it works! Sucks, doesn't it?

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The south.

The Nuremberg Laws were Jim crow but with the one drop rule crossed out and Hitlers name written at the top.

Black GIs came back from liberating Europe, to be lynched for being 'too uppity'.

If it wasn't for the south desperately trying to drag us into their filth we wouldn't have had W, we wouldn't have Trump, we could have had universal Healthcare and just generally not sold everything out to the oligarchs.

The rise of the United States was due to the destruction of the south as a political power, allowing the rest of the country to grow, for instance the transcontinental railroad.

Cancer can go into remission, but it doesn't always stay there.

[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Every single Confederate officer and politician should have been hanged until dead.

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago

Absolutely not!

What kind of message does that send?!

We should have given all the slavers to their slaves, and then just walked away.

Let nature quietly take its course.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Americans were quite sympathetic towards the Nazis before the war. A lot of the pseudo-science race teachings and call for eugenics, which is genocide, were supported in the US. The Nazis got inspired by the flag saluting fascist ritual "pledge of allegiance" that still exists today, but long before. Henry Ford and other "models of the American Dream" could spread their Antisemitic hatred globally, while being recognized, revered or at least tolerated by their US American co-citizens.

The US was on its best way to become a fascist empire in the 20th century already, without any influence from the German Nazis. The German Nazis may have helped slightly, but the responsibility lies with the US Americans. After all the US was founded on a settler colonial white supremacist ethnic cleansing and genocide itself.

I agree with your conclusion. The US will not stop until it is stopped, like any other fascist country will not stop until it is stopped.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Americans were quite sympathetic towards the Nazis before the war.

There are examples, yes, but that's a hell of an oversimplification. Such that it could be called bullshit. Which I do.

[–] Seleni@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

It’s… really not? You might want to go brush up on your history.

[–] x4740N@lemm.ee 2 points 4 days ago

So basically the hydra uprising in shield but with the american government

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

And this time, don't take the scientists.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Ooh, those Nazis, taking over America and doing such horrible things as...

the Civil Rights Movement...?

[–] keegomatic@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It’s confusingly worded, but I think they were saying “they” as in “America” were having a civil rights movement (60s), and that the Nazi successors started the war on drugs to undermine and destroy it.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)
[–] WuceBrillis@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

More like assassinating Martin Luther King Jr.

And no, obviously i am not saying that the political scientists and propogandists were doing this, they were old as shit when that happened.

But they helped other people spread the same ideology, do you think Americans weren't racist while the civil rights movement needed to be a thing?

It got stopped though, by who?

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I realize that I'm not going to leave a single dent in 57 years of conspiracy theories by saying this, but

  • It wouldn't require government intervention to create opposition to the civil rights movement, they were more common than MAGAts.

  • The government targeting the icon for peaceful nonviolent approach would certainly be an unusual play to make.

  • The opposition to civil rights in the federal government was the majority party, and the passing of the Civil Rights Act was bipartisan.

  • James Earl Ray, past crimes included Burglary, Armed Robbery, Mail Fraud (stealing checks in the mail), and Armed Robbery Again before escaping prison from 1967 to 1969 before being caught in London, during which time he traveled many states but eventually wound up in LA where he worked and frequently visited the George Wallace headquarters, Wallace being a Segregationist politician and presidential candidate. Ray was renting a room across the street from MLK Jr's place of assassination and fled shortly thereafter.

[–] WuceBrillis@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago

I am not saying the government killed him directly, but i definitely think that the Nazis had a role to play in the American propoganda machine, that helped racism grow back to its glory days.