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[–] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Is Kagi still good? If not, what engine should I use?

[–] AbnormalHumanBeing@lemmy.abnormalbeings.space 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

So, this is not a proper answer to your question. (The closest I'd give there, personally, is DDG, Qwant or Ecosia, all with their own caveats). But, I've been evangelizing a bit in favour of helping Mwmbl develop further.

Basically, it is an attempt to do for search engines what Wikipedia did for encyclopedic knowledge. It's still basically just a dream with an interface that's experimental and a search index still being built, currently seemingly bottlenecked by available (monetary) resources.

Oh, and a matrix community, where the actual community work seems to be happening.

But even though it's an infant with not that much more than a dream at this moment - I think their project shows promise, in audacity to challenge search engine giants alone, if nothing else. Currently, I am using it as my go to "first search" search engine, helping with curating results if possible (although, truth be told, in the past weeks most searches did not give anything useful at all). I also have the index building web crawling script running on the same server as my Fediverse instances - but there is also a firefox extension for more casual volunteer crawling without a cli script.

I can't sell this as a "proper" search engine, but still, am happy in evangelising it to anyone interested in supporting what tries to become a proper, open search engine not just on FOSS software, but FOSS principles.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

DDG is just Bing under the hood.

Indeed, which is why I couldn't recommend it without caveats and I at least don't know of a search engine I could recommend without caveats at all.

Not the response I wanted, but probably the one I need. DDG has been disappointing, even compared to Google, but you've given me a lot of great options. Thank you.

[–] miguel@fedia.io 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] PlzGivHugs@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Isn't StartPage just Google's results, but less personalized?

[–] miguel@fedia.io 4 points 3 days ago

I believe it uses a combo of bing and google with anonymizers, yes. I've just started poking around there due to waterfox mobile using it by default.

Thanks! I'll give it a try.

[–] Alk@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah kagi is still good. I've been using it for a while and am very happy.

Thanks for the feedback!

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Kagi is great if you have the change to spare.

Probably off topic, but now I'm imagining myself shaking a cup of change at passers by.

"Spare some change to help an old man get ad-free search results?"

[–] frostysauce@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Opisek@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

10 per month, 14 in a duo deal

[–] frostysauce@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Thanks! A bit steep but probably worth it in the end. Do you know if you can set it as the default search in Firefox?

[–] Opisek@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Not sure, I'm still trying to convince SO to get a duo.