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[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 538 points 5 days ago (17 children)

Some brilliant people invented photoshop

It was a good product but expensive

Some asshole coke head CEO decided to make it more expensive and worse.

Fuck adobe.

GIMP 3 FTW

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 199 points 5 days ago (10 children)

And they bought Macromedia’s suite and destroyed it.

[–] lowspeedchase@lemmy.dbzer0.com 58 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I miss macromedia flash so bad, actionscript for life

[–] flightyhobler@lemmy.world 38 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I once built a website preloader that was so large that I made a pre-preloader for it. Good times indeed.

[–] Ebby@lemmy.ssba.com 21 points 5 days ago (1 children)

A flash preloader was my first real tech job! As I recall, they stiffed my last paycheck and went under later.

But it was incredibly fun and I made connections that steered my career to a new direction for the next decade.

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[–] metaldream@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 days ago

Good I hated working in actionscript so much.

[–] modifier@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Fireworks for me. I miss that whole suite though.

[–] andxz@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Now there's a name I haven't seen in a while and that makes me a little bit sad.

[–] shyguyblue@lemmy.world 30 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] Rogue@feddit.uk 20 points 5 days ago

Fireworks had so much potential as a web design app and they threw it away.

Illustrator and InDesign were too focused on print media and Photoshop could barely comprehend anything unless it was rasterized.

[–] Wimster@lemmy.wtf 10 points 4 days ago

That's what big tech companies do, they buy small and promissing companies they think that once can become a competitor and then.... destroy it. The young startups just take the money and can retire early.

[–] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

And they bought Cool Edit and destroyed it.

[–] Xerxos@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And they bought Paintshop pro and destroyed it

[–] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Corel bought Paint Shop Pro and destroyed it, not Adobe, though it was an Adobe-style move to be sure.

[–] Redredme@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

I think he is old, like me and means aldus photostyler. Which was light years ahead of adobe in background separation.

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[–] commander@lemmy.world 130 points 5 days ago (3 children)

GIMP 3, Krita, Darktable, Inkscape, Kdenlive

[–] kazerniel@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

if you poke around graphic design as a hobby, these might be fine, but not for professional use from what I've read :/

e.g. apparently Inkscape still can't really do CMYK

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 61 points 5 days ago (2 children)
[–] yonder@sh.itjust.works 43 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

The people editing their images in Blender are the same people who edit their videos in Blender lol.

[–] primemagnus@lemmy.ca 15 points 5 days ago

You say that like it’s a bad thing lol

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 days ago (20 children)

Has it gotten better with editing? I tried a couple of years ago and just couldn't. It's amazing for the 3d software. If they could make it easier to measure things, I'd use it for CAD too.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (8 children)

FreeCAD for CAD as others mentioned.

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[–] Manticore@lemmy.nz 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I use Affinity Suite for work. Paid for it once, have it forever. Free updates until new editions, which are discounted if you own an older edition. Buy it for one platform (Windows), that's a license for that edition of any other platform too. AND they regularly go on special, often to 50% off.

It doesn't have AI content generation, but it does a few things Adobe doesn't - like being able to use Photo and Designer from INSIDE Publisher, seamless like its a single program!

Affinity Photo (Photoshop), Designer (Illustrator), and Publisher (InDesign). Then Krita for raster illustration. That's all I need as a professional

[–] muusemuuse@lemm.ee 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I have some artist friends who saw the writing on the wall after Adobe told Apple to fuck off with the iPad and Affinity said hold my beer. One owns her own publishing company and as of a few years ago all new projects were Adobe-free workflows. She still has Adobe but will only use it for older shit that might still need something later. Going forward, she (and therefore her entire operation) are fucking done with Adobe. Another friend learned both so he could adapt to whatever the market has in store for him and since the market sucks for artists he’s going freelance too and has said absolutely no to Adobe.

Adobe is officially legacy software. Vendor lock in won’t save it as the creatives don’t need industry titans to survive.

[–] Manticore@lemmy.nz 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Moat of the teams I see hiring designers are still using Adobe, and printshops take .ai files. But most of the solo designers I know use Affinity, and I've heard of one (albeit small) team that has swapped to Affinity for their whole team.

Affinity was just bought by Canva so idk how it might evolve over time, or if v3 will make compromises I don't agree with. But I got v1 during Covid, loved it, converted to v2 as soon as it was available, still love it. Using all of them on the same file in the same window feels amazing.

Another downside is that designers rarely make asset packs for Affinity. But I'm pretty sure Affinity is able to import brush pack formats from one of the other big names, just not sure which (likely Adboe's .abr)

I don't like painting in Photo though, but that might be because I'm so used to Krita, which is designed for illustration in the first place. (They're great, I might donate to them again actually)

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 45 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I (distantly) knew an indie software developer who was putting up a pretty good Photoshop alternative in 1996: ONE GUY alone in his bedroom was making a decent living selling a Photoshop alternative that he wrote himself. And he wasn't exactly a super-wunderkind coder, just a guy who knew the photo manipulation space well enough to get enough customers to float selling his software for a few years - in direct competition with Photoshop.

Adobe isn't selling magic dust ground from precious gemstones by thousands of artisans. They had a decent product that they marketed the hell out of and eventually got overly greedy.

GIMP, Krita, and many others are right up there if you haven't been sucked into the Adobe addiction vortex.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 18 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Krita is awesome with a drawing pad

And I'm not like even good at doing anything

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 2 points 3 days ago

Yeah, I got my son a draw-on monitor explicitly for use with Krita. It's a normal PC too, but it makes Krita much easier to use well.

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I use GIMP, but you can't compare it to Photoshop. GIMP has a horrible GUI and it has very strange design choices.

The Affinity suite is comparable to Photoshop, but it's a paid product.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 2 points 3 days ago

I compare today's GIMP to the Photoshop I used in the 1990s, and they're not very different at all.

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[–] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 33 points 5 days ago (2 children)
[–] Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 18 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Affinity Photo for me!

I'd prefer FOSS but...GIMP ain't it.

Have used Photopea in* a bind in the past, it's also pretty good especially the clone GUI.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Bought out by Canva, I also currently love it, but I don't expect that to last.

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[–] Vibi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I moved to Affinity early this year, and it has been amazing!! I was expecting a long adjustment period after decades with Photoshop, but it's so similar that I picked it up super quick!

[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

I have been using it for the past 5+ years. It is good enough, and its perpetual license.

[–] emogu@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Another vote for Affinity. Excellent Adobe alternatives 1-time reasonable price. Such a breath of fresh air after so many subs.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Just an FYI that you might want to get some practice in with some Affinity alternatives, because they've been purchased by Canva, and so enshittification might set in any time.

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[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Krita is my graphics app of choice these days. But there are many alternatives that are great (like Gimp and Photopea).

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[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 3 points 3 days ago

Big GIMP fan. That being said, Adobe needs to start promoting some of their actually good stuff, like their investment in the open C2PA spec for proving content authenticity, vs constant AI crap that is the exact opposite.

[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 25 points 5 days ago

I still remember when they bought Macromedia Flash and all my animator friends and I simply couldn't stand Adobe Flash CS3 or whatever it was called. It used more resources, crashed more often and didn't exactly bring anything revolutionary to the table in terms of new functions.

[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I feel like I should have switched to GIMP a decade ago.

[–] Roopappy@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

The best time to switch was 10 years ago. The second best time to switch is right now.

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