Political Memes

Those policital parties include the Monster Raving Loony party and the Pastafarians. We have Count Binface or is it Lord Buckethead running for seats. Minority parties rarely get more than a handful of votes, they don't get any seats.

We have FPTP here too, traditionally it's a race between Labour vs Conservative. A few areas tend to vote Lib Dem, and one consitutiency has been Green for a very long time. But generally it's Labour vs Tories. Now with the UK MAGA (the grifter Nigel Farridge, yes I spelt his name like that on purpose) is gaining popularity on the back of the rise of the hard right. The Tories went full hard right in 2019 when Johnson purged the party of any moderates, so only the loons who worshipped at the altar of brexit were allowed to stay. They continued this trajectory which means they're almost defunct, since anyone who's hard/far right will move to Reform (bunch of racist thugs) and the more moderate Tory voters will switch to Lib Dem or just sit it out. Although Labour seems to still be stuck in 2016 and pandering to the Brexiteers, even though polls show a majority for rejoin or at least closer relations with the EU (eg single market/customs union). So it seems if things continue, it'll be Labour vs Reform. They did well in the popular vote, as much as I hate FPTP, I'm glad it kept them from getting more than 4 seats. Interestingly enough, the media really really pushes Reform. They get tons of airtime, so much promotion. The libdems in comparison get barely any, despite having more seats. The Greens have 4 seats and barely get a look in in the media. The media (inc the BBC, Laura Kuensberg especially) is definitely favouring the hard right.

The current leader of the opposition, Kemi Badenoch, is a joke. Just your daily reminder that this woman thinks asylum seekers shouldn't be allowed here because they didn't earn their right to live here.

She only has British citizenship at all because her parents came here from Nigeria just before her mum was due to give birth, booked a private hospital for the birth, then bogged off straight back to Nigeria. That's how she got her British passport. That's how she "earned" her right to be here. Hypocrite POS.

The TLDR channel on YouTube explains a lot of British politics in a quick way for anyone who wants to know more.

I don't care to defend that point. The point I am focused on is Guillotine Party.

Whether we eliminate FPTP or not; whether we develop a third party or not, the leadership and ~~Billionaire~~ Problem Class needs to be removed from all parties.

The SNP flourished in Scotland because the Scottish parliament has a proportional representation system (ironically chosen to keep the SNP out of power). Their success in the Scottish Parliament helped get them when contesting FPTP in Westminster.

I don't know much about UK elections, but from what I see on Wikipedia it deploys different voting systems and even fptp is really a fptp system + party list so not exactly the same.

In US there truly is just a single election where you give a single vote for the candidate and whomever gets more votes wins.

Yes, there are primary elections too, but those aren't real elections, they are elections run by the parties to pick up their candidate. They actually could not hold election and just pick up the candidate themselves and that's what they often do for a second term.

The way it works with FPTP in US is that it naturally forces two parties, as you generally are forced to vote against someone and not for someone. This is because of there are two good candidates and one bad, the vote splits and the bad candidate wins due to spoiler effect. So people try to predict which candidates will likely win and vote for the lesser evil.

So no one in 3rd party has any chance, and generally most of the times the people who are running 3rd party are just pathetic.

Sometimes when a serious candidate runs in 3rd party it generally spoils for the candidate with similar views. That's how Bill Clinton won against HW Bush

I would guess it's because the size and complexity of the country, coupled with both sides cracking down hard on ballot access to third parties does that.

Some parts of those governments do have proportional representation (like Scottish Parliment where the SNP has the most representation).

Other than that, I would guess there are a lot of small reasons... like differences in structure/operation/rules, that recall elections are a thing, larger gov't bodies, and election frequency. From the outside, I'd also guess that some of these parties do/have held power for a while until they mess things up and the voters switch it out.

Also a lot of the issue here is with US presidency, and the electoral college cements it even further. That is where it is the biggest inevitability as it's a big race that largely decides the next 4 years (also a partisan senate and house can enable or stall legislature, also how the right stacked the supreme court).

This is also a long-term imbalance (as shown by the video I linked) that intensifies over time. Other systems having different factors may be what prevented it from being a huge issue there, and it probably helps that they are older/more-stable (and less individualistic) countries.