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Pope Francis was from S. America, so technically this is not the first American pope.
Quick question: what is the demonym (a word used to identify people who are from a particular place) of the people from the USA?
I think "US-American" is the most accurate, least controversial, and most grammatically correct one there is π
Yanks
USers.
There is 'Usonian', but nobody uses it.
American. Or if we're being a little silly 'Murican.
US-American, often abbreviated to just American.
Cunts?
A group of cunts is called an America/United States of cunts
Morons feels more accurate. As a moron anyway.
Sad this doesn't extend to French people as well.
First the Fr*nch would have to qualify as people
According to English speakers who didn't understand the proper meaning of words like "continent," it's "Americans." It's stuck around now though.
According to most other languages and nations who use more accurate descriptors, it's closer to "Statesman." You know, people from the 'United States'
Personally I'd say Statesian than Statesman, but it is the same thing
Typical nationalist South American, doesnβt understand that there are countless continental models and none is more correct than the others but still demands English speakers use their languages meaning.
How about you stop being such a nationalistic little colonial cunt and enforcing your language on others?
I mean, if you looked at my post history to see I was born in South America you'd have seen that I refer to myself as an American, like from the US.
That being said, using words incorrectly like "nationalist," especially "nationalist South American," which according to your fee-fees is a continent, not a nation, just goes to prove the point I made.
Also "colonial." You're just throwing buzzwords without understanding them, or rather, you're just throwing words without understanding them.
I was clearly being snarky about it, language is ever flowing, changing, and contradicting itself with words such as 'napron' into 'apron,' 'metaphorically' into 'literally,' or the thousands of borrowed words that mean what they are like 'hound dog' and 'chai tea.'
How about you stop being so blindly sensitive to someone making a sensible point about the only language you know and maybe laugh at yourself a little.
When someone says it's stupid that in Spanish cars are male and clouds are female I don't clutch my pearls, I laugh and agree that it's stupid.
the typical hispanic noun for someone from the usa is still "american" lil bro, nobody is enforcing anything. at least not from this side of the pond, anyways
No it's not, it's "Estadounidense."
"Estados Unidos" is United States, and "-ense" is a suffix referring to origin or belonging.
I never said enforcing, it's more like Americans are the one friend who bought themselves a leather jacket, burst into the room, pulled down their sunglasses and said "you can now call me... The Bossman Guy" and everyone else rolled their eyes and said sure
So now everyone calls them The Bossman Guy even though he's not even the boss
you werent the one who mentioned anything about enforcing though, so i wasnt referring to you
and yes, im aware of "estadounidense", but in most translations/localizations ive seen nowadays "americano" or "americana" is used, too, which is the same as american, because the thing has been around so long that cultural globalization just made it the new standard
of course, colloquially speaking we just call them "gringos" more often than not, for the same language reasons they call themselves 'americans'. difference being who is the neocolonialist lmao but, i digress
That's exactly right in my opinion too, I gotcha
US Americans
Amusingly, the very first search result I got for "US americans" is Exactly what I thought it would be
Here in Murica the colloquial meaning of an unqualified "America" is "the United States of America" its just the way we speak Β―\_(γ)_/Β―
South America is South America, not America.
So yes, technically the first American pope. Not the first Pope from the Americas.
By that logic he's the first North American pope.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_America.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americas
Yes? Heβs both from the country of America and from the continent of North America.
This is very basic English, it shouldnβt be blowing your mind.
America isn't a country.
You are talking about the USA
Hes the second American pope. America refers to both north and south america. The United States of America only referes to a part of America.
He may be the first north american pope and the first pope from the united states of america, but hes not the first american pope.
No.
We follow a different continental model than you do that separates them into two different continents of North America and South America.
Which continental model you use here is entirely irrelevant anyway because in neither model is north america referred to as just "america". The only time that just "America" is used is to refer to the union of north and south america.
There is no country of America. There is the united states of america which would make the pope a statesman. So you can have the first north american pope, the first statesman pope, or just settle for second american pope.
What??? Of course we dont call North America simply America, why would you even think that was an argument I was making? That goes against everything Iβve said.
And there is a country of America, itβs the United States of America. No one calls Germans from the Federal Republic of Germany - Federalisians, same goes for anywhere else including America.
Actually, literally the entire world excepted the US does call them "United States of America", if not only "United States", with traductions of those. The French use "Γtats-Unis", often not specifying America, as do the Spanish speaking world with "Estados unidos". And, yeah, we often just say "Germany", 'cause Germany doesn't try to appropriately the name for the entirety of the continent they sit on, like that one weirdo country does.
Cool, do you see me going up to them and demanding they speak it like the English do? Stop being a shitcunt and trying to force your language and cultural norms on other peoples.
Oh and Germany does take on the name of a geographical region spanning more than the present day nation state called Germany. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germania
Your entire argument for why everyone should just do what you want is simply "We do it this way" and "The US is stupid"? Like seriously grow the fuck up mate.
"American" is the official demonym of the United States but people here will fight you on that for whatever reason.