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[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There've been Batman comics where he admits that he knows he could do so much more to improve Gotham than by beating up criminals but he's fundamentally broken (to the point where he considers Bruce Wayne to be the alter ego of Batman rather than the other way around), so he just keeps punching things.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah but like, he doesn't do anything with that revelation. Realizing you're part of the problem is only the first step, you have to actually follow through with more steps after that.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Too many different writers. Too many different ideas. If you take an established super hero character in too far any direction, you risk pissing off the fans. Really, you just shouldn't be making adult stories with these characters because the moral dilemma start breaking down. Just be glad the editors didn't let Frank Miller make Holy Terror about Batman like he originally wanted.

Yeah if you want those in depth analysis type shit you usually have to go for the spin offs, mini series, and one shot comics. Red Son for example is a decent breakdown of Superman, since all it does is changes his outlook not his need or want to help people.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

Yeah, ultimately, it's a story for children to sell toys. Trying to make it "mature" was always going to produce plot holes and weird characterization.