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The Trump administration is preparing to cancel a large swath of federal funding for California, an effort that could begin as soon as Friday, according to multiple sources.

Agencies are being told to start identifying grants the administration can withhold from California. Sources said the administration is specifically considering a full termination of federal grant funding for the University of California and California State University systems.

Singling out one state for massive cuts would be an unusual move, but Donald Trump has long made Democratic-led California a target.

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[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 148 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

If the federal government isn't going to give California back the federal taxes paid by its citizens then it should stop paying federal taxes.

[–] Tilgare@lemmy.world 52 points 11 hours ago (3 children)
[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 30 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I'm going to be fucking shook if Gavin actually does it. So far, the only people I've seen him meaningfully stand up to are bay area NIMBYs and homeless people.

[–] steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I don't see how he could since individuals pay income tax directly to the federal government during tax season. It would take all of them working in unison to do it. Unless there's some other tax payment directly from CA state that I don't know about.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 12 points 11 hours ago

Taco Don doesn't understand how anything works.

[–] Hackworth@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Is that functionally just seceeding?

[–] Tilgare@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I have NO clue what the legal ramifications are here. If it's not, that would seem like a next step.

[–] seemefeelme@infosec.pub 3 points 9 hours ago

Please do, California. I want to visit again and I'm not looking to get sent to El Salvador on arrival lol

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

I wonder how one could do this.

[–] acchariya@lemmy.world 21 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

The state of California could implement say, an 80% state income tax. This would be deductable from federal tax per IRS tax code. The state could then create an instant tax credit to credit back a gross 69% income, leaving 11% to the state to match their current tax rate.

The Feds would only get tax on 20% of wages, unlike the 89% they do now

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Then you get something like the current SALT cap that cancels that out

[–] ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

It would only delay things. When you get a state tax refund, the next year it's counted as federal wages.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 10 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Taxes are collected through the private for-profit banking system in a manner that's completely disjointed from the state of residency. Payroll taxes are incredibly efficient, with north of a 98% collections rate, for this reason. The private banks need the Federal Reserve and the Federal Reserve needs the US Treasury. So when the US Treasury says it's taking a vig on your employer's deposit at Bank of America or Citigroup or even your local Credit Union, compliance is instant and unquestioning.

Going Unbanked is one way to get around this. But without an employer who is operating on the same wavelength and willing to play ball, unbanking yourself is difficult and expensive and fraught with criminal liabilities.

So, the short answer is that there's no (practical) way for a State Government to intervene on Federal income tax collection. Not when all the transactions are taking place in a server farm hosted in a NYC boiler room, anyway.

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

There are other comments that already give practical ways to accomplish what you say is impossible.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] invertedspear@lemmy.zip 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Individuals don’t typically pay taxes themselves. They get deducted from paychecks. Employers do this before we even get paid. So companies would need to support this. But then you have some like my employer who has hundreds of people in California but is based in another state. How is that going to work? This just isn’t as easy as residents just deciding not to.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Okay. I didnt know this. I've never actually paid taxes myself.

But it's also possible other states get on board, and i know domestic industries like cannabis that dont do business with the maij body of the empire play it pretty fast abd loose with taxes.

[–] MangioneDontMiss@lemmy.ca -4 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

its a good thing i stopped paying federal taxes.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

You will lose against the IRS. The only way this works is if everyone acts together. You cannot beat Uncle Sam alone.

[–] Clasm@ttrpg.network 1 points 2 hours ago

Good though they cut finding to that, too, then.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

First pretty dumb to say this publicly if true... But second: you do realize that the rules about paying taxes literally, only apply to people like you and I? They 100% will continue to go after low hanging fruit, and that means people who can't afford a team of attorneys on retainer.