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Donald Trump is directing US Defence Secretary Pete Hegseth to pay military personnel despite the federal government shutdown.

The president said on Saturday that Hegseth must make sure troops do not miss out on their regular paycheque, scheduled for Wednesday. The directive comes as other government employees have already had some pay withheld and others are being laid off.

"I will not allow the Democrats to hold our Military, and the entire Security of our Nation, HOSTAGE, with their dangerous Government Shutdown," Trump posted on his Truth Social platform.

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[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 days ago (5 children)

IDK why I've only just realised this, but does the US not have any concept of a formal "opposition" in government?

Here each of 150 or so regions elects a representative. Whichever of those can get 76 others to line up behind them gets to be Prime Minister and forms the government. All the others form the formal "opposition".

Whenever the government does something, the opposition explains to everyone how stupid it is. Often times the opposition gets more air time than the actual government.

The PM couldn't just, you know, make up lies... because the opposition would skewer him.

Do the dems form any kind of cohesive opposition? Does the media just ignore them? Why don't they have any apparatus with which to reset the narrative?

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 50 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Putting aside the fact that a formal concept of an opposition wouldn't help, because the US has a de facto opposition by nature of having a two-party system: what do you mean, "The PM couldn't just, you know, make up lies"?

Yes they could. This is obvious if you think about it, but this is provable experimentally; the UK had Boris Johnson for three years who lied all the time. Australia's Scott Morrison constantly lied about fossil fuels and climate change. Parliamentary democracies aren't magic.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 29 points 2 days ago

The opposition was supposed to be the media, but the media is now controlled by the megacorps that also control the government, so they also control the narrative.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

There are several reasons why the US has no concept of a formal opposition. One reason is that there is no concept of ever needing to "form a government" in the parliamentary sense. Each elected branch is a separate entity, with its own electoral rules. Particularly in the legislative branch, the majority can do whatever they want (except for the complicated filibuster rules in the Senate.) And the Executive is an entirely separate election. The government is structured directly by the election, and we gave all the levers of government to Republicans last time around. Sometimes the election will result in handing majorities to different parties, and only then will the oppositionhave any real power.

Another reason is that, believe it or not, we have no formal concept of parties in our founding documents. The founders disdained European-style parties, and did not want to replicate them here. They envisioned a country where individuals ran for office, and then all came to Congress representing their individual districts. They did not forsee how easy communication would get in the future, making the local District perspective less important.(also recall that at the founding, both the Senate and Presidential Electors were appointed by State legislatures, so really all elections were local).

And of course, by instituting first-past-the-post elections in these districts, they guaranteed that as communications got easier and national campaigns could emerge, elections would eventually coalesce unto one of two options anyway. The founders' disdain for parties led directly to an even worse two-party system.

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

The founders debated long after the constitution was ratified too.

Outlawing parties would be in direct violation of their first amendment. Humans are social by nature* - coalitions, parties, groups will form just because we exist.

*Yes I'm counting my AuADHD ass because even though I hate socializing with a passion I want to be able to.

[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The founders disdained European-style parties, and did not want to replicate them here. They envisioned a country where individuals ran for office, and then all came to Congress representing their individual districts. They did not forsee how easy communication would get in the future, making the local District perspective less important.

The first US party was formed in 1789, that's only 13 years after the US declared independence and only 6 years after the end of the Revolutionary War. Pretty much all of the founders were alive when the Federalist Party was formed, communications didn't get much better than in 1776. By 1794-1795 both the Federalist Party and the newly formed opposition Democratic-Republican Party had state networks working on a local level in pretty much all the states.

I always love how Americans treat their current 2 party system as a new thing that arose due to modern communications but instead it was there since basically the beginning of their country.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

But it is still a fact that the 2 party system is not engrained in our founding documents anywhere, and we have no idea of an "opposition" party. Either one party controls the Presidency and Congress at the same time, or it doesn't.

And although those 2 parties did emerge early in the country's history, they eventually dissolved, and are no longer around in any capacity. Another poster here noted that parties are simply human nature.

Rather, the current two-party system is an artifact of the first-past-the-post voting that states adopted. The Constitution doesn't even mandate it, but it is how most states have run their elections since the founding.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago

Even in a parliamentary system, if the only members of parliament are either conservative or far right, there's no meaningful opposition.