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“Antifa” Protesters Charged With Terrorism for Constitutionally Protected Activity
(theintercept.com)
this post was submitted on 18 Oct 2025
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Step one of fascist government label anyone that doesnt agree with them as antifa
Well, I mean, are they not?
The real problem is the people in charge taking a common abbreviation of an arguably positive ideology, twisting that abbreviation into a "scary" name, calling it a violent group, packaging it all up with a neat little bow, and then parroting it to the brainwashed masses.
Agreed.
And, it’s a bit uncanny how eerily close this is to that of the far left when they accuse anyone that’s a hair’s width right of the bat-shit insanity of Stalin of being in support of genocide.
They have distanced themselves so far from an alt-right ideology- that they have circled all the way back around to being comparatively identical in their absence of logic.
EDIT: take note how well my point was made in the responses I’ve received. I’ve been accused of both being “programmed” and being a member of truth social- just for points out the fact that there are people who will immediately accuse you of being something you’re not- just because you disagree with them.
(For the record: this was purposefully done to net these results. Some people are so predictable, you can essentially get them to prove your point for you).
The right: we just scrapped a major solar farm that would be cheaper than coal, then lied to everyone and said coal would be cheaper and the environmental impacts don't exist. Also, we have unidentified ice agents wearing masks raiding peoples houses, sometimes kidnapping American citizens, and the national guard deployed unconstitutionally. We have 80% support for this.
The left: if you don't support hamas you support genocide
Truly both sides are the same level of illogical here, you nailed it.
So, you’re creating a different point of reference to show dissimilarities as an argument against something that had nothing to do with your references- and nothing at all to what I actually said…. LOL.
My point remains:
Both the far left and the far right accuse anyone that disagrees with them of saying stupid shit that was never said, or being stupid shit they never were.
But by all means, keep emphasizing yet another point people have against the far left: that you all whatabout and play some stupid version of three-card monte with the plot to the point that you force people to defend points they never even made.
I don’t fall for that shit.
To quote you exactly:
If you are talking about the specific instance of "labeling all protestors as antifa" vs "supporting Israel is supporting genocide"... some experts claim Israel is supporting genocide, so the logic is "if someone is supporting Israel they are supporting genocide." and the protestors all being antifa "members" is just... false. These are not even close to the same level of illogical.
If you mean more generally, my points show they are not comparatively identical in their lack of logic.
The alt right claims to care about the rule of law yet they are breaking the law and disregarding due process, and deporting american citizens as a result. They deployed the national guard to a state against the state's wishes, illegally, to stand there and do next to nothing. There is no logic here.
The alt right claims they want to help the economy yet their president just threw away a solar project that was already underway to get coal that will be more expensive. There is no logic.
The left claims people who support Israel are supporting genocide. You can disagree with this but there are experts who claim the same. The logic is "some experts claim Israel is committing genocide, therefore if someone supports Israel they are supporting genocide." Again, you can disagree with the logic, but there is at least a single thought being had, which can not be said for the far right examples.
On that note:
I’d wager not a single far-leftist understands the terms of the MOU (or even knows what it is), has ever even heard of the FMF or FMS- or could point to Palestine on a map before this shitshow ever started, yet so many of them were/are willing to hold our democracy hostage over it.
And as far as my point goes, voting against a fascist is not in any way shape or form- showing support for genocide. But not voting against fascism is absolutely a show of support for fascism.
Hope this cleared things up for you.
You're comparing the fringe even on lemmy to the average maga voter. The top posts on lemmy are saying that not voting is voting for fascism, so vote for kamala even if it's just the lesser of two evils. Block lemmy.ml and lemmy.grad if this is what you're seeing, those are loud but minority voices.
Even assuming your argument were valid, it's still not true. Some experts have said Israel is committing genocide. Kamala supports Israel. Someone voted for kamala, therefore they are supporting genocide. This logic is faulty, but there is SOME logic there.
Compare this to, we want to help the economy, coal is good and solar is bad...? We just tore down all the solar and hurt the economy........???
If I'm mistaken please show me the logic in the 2nd case?
As to not knowing anything about Palestine or Israel, there is research showing incomplete information is often worse than no information. Someone knowing a few events and being able to point to it on a map could mean LESS than nothing. We need someone who fully understands the history of that area, so for the average person that means either spending 40+ hours researching it, or looking at what the experts who have already done the research and know MUCH more about that entire region were saying, which was "Israel is committing genocide." Taking the majority opinion of experts and forming an opinion based off that is not illogical at all.
Did you get lost? This is Lemmy, I think you were looking for Truth Social.
Yeas. I forgot, this is lemmy: where hive-minded ignorance goes to ignore nuance while congratulating and weirdly- simultaneously competing with one another to see who can make the most smug and edgy response to things they don’t know what they disagree with but are told to.
And not just that, but it’s also where accusations are freely hung on anyone that disagrees with the flavor-of-the-week rhetoric of being a Trump supporter..
I’m guessing you probably don’t even see the irony in your comment accusing me of being a Trump supporter just because I said shit you don’t like- in a thread where I called out the fact that the far left accuses anyone that disagrees with them of supporting genocide.
(In this example, Trump supporter and genocide supporter are interchangeable if it wasn’t obvious)
In what ways specifically is this similar to the far left?
Did I not just spell that out?
You have not, please go ahead though
Oh, I thought it was pretty obvious you were being hyperbolic there. Try harder
Will do! Thanks bud!
no
Cheers to you! Fuck them
It's nothing like that.
It’s everything like that.
You can be deprogrammed. You dont have to feel this way any more. You can be a happy empathetic member of the human race.
Isn’t this a bit too similar to how you all complained when people accused you of being paid bots during the election? Which is similar to how trump’s minions accuse anyone that disagrees with them of being anti-American?
It’s almost as if you’re trying to prove my point for me, but you’re too busy trying to be smug to notice.
Totally