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Agents tried to detain Castro Rivera and the three other passengers, and he fled on foot, tried to cross Interstate 264 in Norfolk and was fatally struck, according to state and federal authorities.

DHS blamed Castro Rivera’s death on “a direct result of every politician, activist and reporter who continue to spread propaganda and misinformation about ICE’s mission and ways to avoid detention.”

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[–] cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

I'm always amazed how bodies can keep piling up and nobody really cares in the US. What does it take before society as a whole says "enough!"? A lot, apparently.

[–] lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world 30 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

nobody really cares in the US

We just had the largest protest in our country’s history, are you confused?

[–] ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 15 hours ago

Yeah, I'd take issue with the idea that nobody really cares.

Nobody in power cares, but that's not the same.

[–] edible_funk@lemmy.world -3 points 14 hours ago

For one whole day too! We all deserve a cookie!

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 10 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Remember, the US, while likes to sell itself as the "sole winner of WW2", the "main force that beat the Nazis", actually profited off the war by selling equipment to both the Allies and Axis powers, and had regular Nazi marches that largely went by unprotested, up until Pearl Harbor.

So, what does it take for the US to stand up in unity?

A clear-cut attack against the US as a whole.

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] fonix232@fedia.io 1 points 5 hours ago

ICE isn't an attack against the US. A third of the country is in support of these chucklefucks.

The only unifying force is an external threat - like 9/11 showed.

[–] Cherry@piefed.social 1 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

As an outside it’s is bizarre to see, esp against the rhetorical image of the American we have seen in the last 50 years.

I understand that any violence will be used against protestors and I feel that unfortunately as any peaceful protest is blatantly ignored (at this points it’s almost being mocked), violence is likely to occur.

Question is what is the line? It’s not abuse of minorities, it’s not protection of the greedy, it’s not personal privacy.

[–] lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world 9 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

As an insider it’s bizarre. There’s a lot of fear here, and it’s exacerbated by the fact that there’s a large and very vocal, and very violent minority who is intermixed throughout the populace. That minority is being coaxed on to violence by the oligarchy, actively.

Then we have the “prodding outsiders” who believed the American exceptionalism propaganda exports, and are now shoving that in our faces goading us on “why won’t you be the first to stand up and get shot in the face? Why won’t your heroes DO anything?!”

Because most of us are kind, gentle, very tired people who are probably waiting for this to all “blow over” which likely won’t happen by itself.

Thanks for your concern I guess.

[–] Cherry@piefed.social 2 points 13 hours ago

I think it’s just so unreal for many. I understand that most people are scared and tired too. I am Apprehensive of what is coming because it’s the innocent who get the brunt. I wish Peace and love could win through.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

As an outside it’s is bizarre to see, esp against the rhetorical image of the American we have seen in the last 50 years.

It's definitely just a rhetorical image. Growing up here, it's maddening to grow up with the morals we ascribe to, then to endlessly see how they don't play exist in practice

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 hours ago

That's why it's not just a counter messaging effort to reclaim those core patriotic symbols of America. The Statue of Liberty is an icon of immigrants. The Pledge of Allegiance, while weird in many ways, has the line "liberty and justice for all". The original revolutionary articles talk about unaccountable agents of the king. People have many of these ideas forged into their core during their childhood, even if in adulthood they're covered over with layers of cynicism because normal times America still didn't really live up to them. And because of that they're a valuable appeal to a more patriotic self that believed those things were good and were important and that violating them so egregiously is extreme and obscene and worthy of attention and action.