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[–] Foni@lemm.ee 5 points 32 minutes ago

Well, in 1933 when the NSPD came to power they had 43% of the seats in parliament (I haven't found the percentage of the total votes but I imagine it was much less). That did not prevent them from repeating the elections at the end of that year and getting more than 90%, you can imagine how.

Even a part of popular culture accepts that they came to power by winning elections and the German people feel and felt the shame that they came to power by democratic means, which is only half true.

I feel sorry for the American people, but they elected this team under the same rules of democracy as their previous presidents. To claim now that his election was not democratic is to distort the facts.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 5 points 24 minutes ago

In conclusion 68% let Trump win or directly voted for him.

[–] despicable@lemmy.today 3 points 5 minutes ago

Pffffft, the rest of you lot knew what was at stake, the lazy twats who couldn't be bothered to save their own nation by exercising their RIGHT to vote aren't off the hook. I've literally started to cringe when hearing Americans in public (I live in the UK) because in my mind subconsciously there's a high chance that person is dumb as fuck.

[–] TranslateErr0r@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago

Stop this bs. Rules are set before the game begins.

[–] RizzoTheSmall@lemm.ee 4 points 38 minutes ago

68.1% of US citizens are bloody idiots.

[–] scifun@lemmy.world 28 points 2 hours ago (6 children)

Both times Trump won was when a woman was running against him. The only time he lost was to a white old man.

USA is just sexist and Americans better come to terms with it rather than making up random reasons.

[–] hikuro93@lemmy.ca 6 points 54 minutes ago

While your logic does have a point, and there's no shortage of sexists out there, I must also state that both Clinton and Harris were horrid candidates as well, and both followed a democrat president the people were starting to/were done with.

Not only that, but both times Trump preyed on what the people were desperate to hear: "Better living conditions, lower prices" and all that. This was mainly the illusion of choice between two evils, and they chose the one that seemed to be the lesser one. The one who appeared to be "more honest" and despite being a nepo-baby called out and criticized all other rich people.

The issue is the system itself, and the fact that voters choose their candidates like celebrities or their sports team. See Harris making her campaign way more about celebrity endorsement than commiting to actual societal issues. She was never gonna win like that, and even if she did, she would still be a bad president. Not worse for sure, now that we all are seeing current Trump starting all sorts of conflicts and trying to become a dictator, but still a bad president.

The US can elect a female president. But so far the options picked for that were absolutely horrid, and I know there's several good and competent female leaders who are both democrats and republicans. Sadly they have too much common sense or lean too much to the centre to be taken seriously by the ones who want to create a spectacle.

[–] Retropunk64@reddthat.com 2 points 1 hour ago

Tbf, we haven't had a good candidate from either party since Obama.

[–] canajac@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 hour ago

Maybe the women weren't qualified? Clinton ran thinking her name would be enough. Kamala ran because she/they thought anyone except Joe could win. 36% who didn't vote are the true cowards in all this mess. Now a majority of Americans will suffer for 4 years because of lazy-asses who thought that not showing up to vote was a protest move. WRONG!

[–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 hours ago

Correlation is not causation. We elected Obama who was one of the youngest presidents in US history first term. Also he was Black. I'm not saying the country is sexist, but I am saying both the female candidates that made it the general election, ran on dog shit platforms of "more of the same"

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 13 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Basically if Tim Walz was the presidential candidate he probably would have won.

[–] hal9000@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

This! Kamala is a black woman. She was never going to win. When asked if they would rather win or be right, they chose being right. They live on denial on how sexist and racist their country is.

[–] match@pawb.social 3 points 1 hour ago

there wasn't really a primary system or anything to address this

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[–] theshoeshiner@lemmy.world 1 points 58 minutes ago

People forget that black men, many of whom were born slaves, got the right to vote before women.

[–] yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 hours ago

"my vote won't change anything", "i don't like any of them", "that won't affect me", call leopards for those 36%

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 23 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I need to mention that the reason why 20 million fewer voters voted is. Because of the massive voter suppression that was done prior to the 2024 election. So many people were purged from voters rolls and many polling places were closed it wasn't funny.

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 10 points 4 hours ago (5 children)

While I'm sure that was part of it, a lot of people didn't vote for other reasons as well. Someone I know who you would probably consider "left" didn't vote at all because of Harris supporting Israel (I'm aware trump is worse for Palestinians), and I know a bunch of other people I've spoken to online also didn't vote at all for the same reason.

Plus I suspect a lot of other previous Biden voters didn't vote at all for similar reasons, like possibly all party's are owned by the rich.

Bottom line, a class war is needed to get the rich in check.

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[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee 8 points 3 hours ago

Not a mandate, but voter's apathetic acceptance.

[–] Ithorian@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Thats how elections work everywhere in the world... Wtf are you talking about?

[–] epicstove@lemmy.ca 2 points 46 minutes ago

*How First past the post elections work

Places with proportional representation have parliaments with representatives from a wide range of parties that have to cooperate with each other rather than constantly undermine each other.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 hours ago

This is true of every election except maybe one.

Nobody always wins. The "winner" is always elected by a tiny minority. It's a fundamentally corrupt system. Always has been. Literally concocted by genocidal slavers.

[–] xorollo@leminal.space 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Let's get a count of all of the votes that were tossed due to targeted voter registration purges.

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