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[–] rekabis@programming.dev 2 points 6 days ago

I would say that, conditional to the man having a partner, intimacy is a hell of a lot more accessible than therapy. Provided that intimacy is not rationed or made conditional, this could provide more lasting and more timely healing than therapy as well.

With that said, we really need to normalize men seeking therapy. There are far too many men where the conditions above are not met, and so could and would benefit more from therapy than intimacy.

[–] Vreyan31@reddthat.com 2 points 6 days ago

To all those saying, "but why shouldn't men want to be cared for?"

This meme plays into a narrative the makes women subservient.

It suggests that only men "battle", and that being a man and "battling" entities them to care by women.

No where in this is acknowledgement that women have burdens too, and that all people benefit from care.

No where in this is any hint of reciprocity. If anything, it implies that the "joy" of taking care of "her man" should be enough.

No. Walk the fuck on. Having a penis doesn't entitle you to one-sided care.

The other thing implied by this - that women should 'naturally' be able to fix 'her man'. But if a woman in broken? Oof - 'she has Daddy issues' and better fix herself, right?

And what if a woman tries to fix 'her man' and fails? Oh look - isnt that convenient - society just took all his faults and made them her failures. Wow! Who wouldn't want to sign up for that??

And just look at that success rate. You can count up the number of women killed by intimate partners and see how great this plan is.

Society really needs to get past this childish narrative that tells men they should expect to find a manic pixie dream girl who lives only to make him happy. Men make fun of girls for believing in Prince Charming, but this is truly the more destructive fairy tale.

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

I get that the original was a bit sensationalist but I don’t see a problem with the overall message. Yes it was needlessly gendered but again that doesn’t change the message.

People need people that care about them and will listen. That’s it.

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 218 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Everyone can benefit from a therapist and everyone can benefit from a loving, caring partner.

Who knew?

[–] missandry351@lemmings.world 1 points 6 days ago

Not when they see relationships as transactional

[–] JadenSmith@sh.itjust.works 48 points 1 week ago (6 children)

It definitely does not need to be one or the other. Oftentimes therapy could help in the relationship department considerably. Deep hurt is hard to get through alone, yet I hope more and more people understand there is help out there.
If relationships are a two way street, and one person is hurting enough to affect their role within it all there should be no shame in reaching out in that way. It could help a lot. It's a shame there's still so much stigma around therapy.

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[–] alecbowles@lemm.ee 106 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

I’m a man and I just need a big hairy and muscular chest to lay my head on the end of a very tough day.

I have no idea what this guy Alex is on about.

[–] tkk13909@sopuli.xyz 56 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] 5too@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

He said a hairy and muscular chest! That chest is smooth!

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[–] fireweed@lemmy.world 77 points 1 week ago (5 children)

So, uh, if this is what men need at the end of the day, what does this guy think women need at the end of their day? Or is it only men "fighting battles" in their day-to-day lives? Because this surely implies that either men are needlessly making things harder for themselves if women somehow manage to avoid daily battles, or that women don't need comfort after their daily battles... and wouldn't that make men, who do need that help, the weaker sex?

[–] missandry351@lemmings.world 2 points 6 days ago

I know right! It’s all “but men bruh” but who takes care of women?

I know themselves do, because no one will. But somehow that’s accepted, and men taking care of themselves and stop exploiting women isn’t?

[–] Zizzy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 55 points 1 week ago (1 children)

See, youre actually missing one key component here. They dont think of women as people. Just baby machines made to please men.

[–] El_Scapacabra@lemm.ee 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's true. As soon as I'm out of sight of my husband I dock like a Roomba and wait until he returns so I can wipe away his tears and give him a foot rub.

/s

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[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 69 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Also I guess gay men don't exist. But would not be surprised someone with such a bad take also has bad ideas about queerness

[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 30 points 1 week ago

You are correct. People with these attitudes would prefer gay men to not exist.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 67 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Women: "I want a guy in touch with his feelings."

Men: "I want a woman I can share my feelings with."

Internet people: "Women aren't your mommy, go see a therapist with your dumb feelings."

Me, too moron to interact with human: "Hello kitty, wanna watch King Of the Hill again? Me too, I'll get the blanket."

[–] Genius@lemmy.zip 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The guy in the screenshot is not in touch with his feelings.

[–] PumaStoleMyBluff@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, in touch with your feelings != dumping your feelings out of a firehose at a partner who's expected to just soak them all up once a week, then pretending they don't exist the rest of the time.

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[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's a gradient, but this particular case is distasteful because the man is expecting his partner to do literally free therapy, rather than work with a professional. It's more akin to treating your partner as an emotional dumping ground than opening up.

If this is happening in the context of a more equitable relationship, where they both take turns supporting each other, then it's totally different, though.

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[–] some_dude@lemm.ee 52 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I think a modern dysfunction of intergender relationship is an increase in transactional intimacy. Whether it's dating, sex, or emotional, I think a lot of men are paying for their intimacy.

[–] Azzu@lemm.ee 31 points 1 week ago

There is a disconnect between people noticing that love is not unconditional, and thinking love is completely transactional.

Of course if love is never useful for one of the participating parties involved, then this/their love will fade. But people interpret this fact in the way that love should always be exactly as useful for all parties involved all the time.

But in reality, it should be fine if sometimes maybe one side is more selfish, less giving, sometimes the other side. Sometimes one side gives more emotional support, but the other side is more physically caring. And so on. Love doesn't need to be perfectly equal, it just needs to make all parties involved better than if they were without the love.

But when you're very competitive and selfish, and it's hard to quantify each person's usefulness to each other, it's easy to always think that what you give is more than what someone else gives. Constantly having arguments about how you think things should be.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It can easily be a case of personal perception of a relationship, at least my generation was constantly told their only value in life is utilitarian, when that's your mind set you're going to assume that's the only value you have in relationships as well. Again, therapy would help a lot so men can see that their partners do value them outside of their assigned value culture.

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[–] Allero@lemmy.today 49 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Uhm, having someone care for you is not a "pathological mother figure".

People need this. Men need this. Asking for care is the most normal thing a person can do.

And then if something is actually wrong, there is a therapist.

[–] goodthanks@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

Even people who have put the work into therapy need a loving attachment figure. It's healthy to be open and vulnerable when you need it.

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago (3 children)

"all the battles he fought that day"

jesus, stop romanticizing having to deal with life dude. guess what, everyone does.

what are the odds that this guy lost his shit at the man vs bear question.

[–] SendPrudes@lemm.ee 22 points 1 week ago

Obviously the man is better than the bear - all he wants from the woman in the woods is for her to live a life of servitude to him as his psuedo mommy, wife, child producer and lover, because he has epic Viking battles he has to deal with…. of taking the trash to the curb, and waiting in traffic to get to work, because therapy is too expensive, or feminine?

Lmao

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[–] SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz 38 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Women aren't paid enough to be both your bangmaid and your therapist.

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[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 38 points 1 week ago (6 children)

As a guy, when I was younger, I jumped from relationship to relationship looking for that exact thing. You know what I got for my trouble? Nothing.

So, during my college years, I spent time by myself, learning how to get by and be okay with surviving without relying on anyone else. It was a farce of course because I was in school, not going to work, but it was close enough.

I got into the workforce and all of the things I forced myself to learn to be independent from literally everyone, was the pivot point where I was able to stabilize my life and start dating.

After a while I knew I didn't want someone who needed me. I wanted someone who 100% could do everything that they needed to do on their own, but wanted me around anyways.

I found what I was looking for. I put a ring on it.

I don't worry when she goes out in her vehicle that she bought with her own money for her own purposes, that she's going to go find someone "better" because neither of us care about what's "better" than whatever else. I don't have to worry that she'll call and say she needs money because x, y, or z. She has her own money she made, that she can spend however she wants.

We split household costs, we enjoy eachother company and we value that we aren't relied on by the other for everything. It goes both ways.

As things have gone, the line between "mine" and "hers" has blurred to the point that, unless it's a high dollar value item, it's just ours. Because bothering to remember who paid for what is a waste of time and effort. Cars, yes, anything else? Probably not.

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[–] Kertyna@feddit.nl 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 30 points 1 week ago

All the battles you fought that day? Unless you are on the front line in Ukraine you should be able to find a more chill lifestyle.

[–] zealshock@slrpnk.net 26 points 1 week ago

Twitter is where discourse goes to die

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (9 children)

If you dont want to both provide and receive caring, nurturing, and intimacy, as needed in a relationship, stay single.

That is the entire point. "to have and to hold" isn't a nearly universal marriage vow for nothing, even if it's a lie when said by many of either sex.

Sadly, as with virtually everything in society, relationships and marriage after a lovely but brief enlightened period are regressing back to a transactional business arrangement and not something based in mutual love, warts and all. Sucks to suck.

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago

We all need a caring person to nurture and restore our energy. This is a fundamental part of loving someone. Your parents do it when you're young but that does not mean you stop needing it.

Both of these posters are toxic in different ways.

[–] bstix 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why is he genderizing therapy? Do men not have brains?

I'm a man. I don't need therapy because I don't want to. That's different. I need therapy, I just don't want to.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

There are men (and entire cultures) that think having psychical problems is a weakness, makes you a weak man and most fear being weak, what ironically makes them weak.

Women, on the other hand, are seen as the weak gender by default, so there it's less of a problem.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 24 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Freud would have a field day with this dude.

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[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 23 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Going from "men need intimacy" to "manchild wants a mommy" is toxic masculinity on the second guy's part.

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[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

"I dont need therapy, I just need to have a woman that reminds me of my mother and will fuck me"

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[–] RedFrank24@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (15 children)

I wonder if there's a market for male-centric therapy. As in "I've got a loada wood that needs chopping. Come chop wood with me and we'll talk about stuff". You know, give 'em something to do with their hands while they talk. Obviously you probably couldn't do that with someone who's known for being aggressive and has a criminal record, but someone who has trouble talking about their feelings and doesn't feel comfortable just sitting in a room or on a Teams call and would rather feel like they're accomplishing something.

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[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I don't like legitimizing Freud cause like all his ideas that permeated popular culture are total bull but holy shit, paging Dr Freud.

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