I'm part of the accounting team in my company, a fucking big corporation, but because I'm not part of the dev or IT department IT dosen't want to give me access to the azure devops they use. So I had to ask for service desk to install git locally and using it like that.
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Principle of least permission. I'm a dev and I still have to ask for temporary permission to even access customer infrastructure to solve production issues. Why should you need access to deployment infrastructure? I would deny you too, especially if your need could be solved by a local install of git.
I think we in the financial department need a devops for us, we write a lot of code that generates a lot of important information for strategic decisions and for regulatory bodies. I'm the only one in the accounting team that knows how to code, but the actuarial team? All of them write code. And all of that code is sparced on butch of directories with _v{n}, _final_version, _post-fix, (copy) and so on. Is completely ridiculous that everything is being moved to Python without a git environment.
I'm a SysAdmin and I've met several 'coders' who went thru a coding bootcamp, or even went to college and don't know about git, less alone how to use it... kinda makes me sad.
In a cave with a box of scrap
The biggest tragedy of modern media is that they chose to cast Elon Musk as the real life Tony Stark instead of torvalds who created 2 pieces of truly revolutionary software (with the help of thousands of other engineers ofc)
Four things went for Musk:
- he was rich
- he had a passing resemblance to Robert Downey Jr.
- he ~~made~~ was closely associated with futuristic hardware (we don't seem to value revolutionary software the same way as hardware)
- he was rich
In all honesty, a lot of solo developers who are directly responsible for the internet as we know it should be getting far more credit than rich ass holes but here we are.
Edit: correct
Don’t forget:
- he was rich
Don’t forget:
- his dad was rich
A distinction without a difference
I mean, let’s be thorough. He’s
- the rich scion
- of a family that made their fortune owning and exploiting emerald mines
- in South Africa
- during apartheid
Kinda tells you all you need to know about him and his family.
Also his dad fucked and married his own stepdaughter. No, I’m not kidding.
he made futuristic hardware
Did he
Yeah Teslas were pretty leading edge at the beginning. Then they started doing weird stuff like removing stalks and making triangular trucks.
Falcon 9 and Starship are obviously futuristic too.
Did he, though?
No not in the same way Tony Stark did. But Tony Stark is imaginary. Obviously nobody can build an electric car or a rocket in the same way that Tony Stark does.
Of all the criticisms of Musk this is the weakest. There are many way more valid ones... for instance:
- He's an arsehole.
- He straight up called that diver a paedo, and even paid a scammer to investigate him.
- The scummy lottery thing for votes for Trump. I don't care if it ends up being technically legal, it's clearly immoral.
- Selling the promise of FSD for hard cash when it clearly is never going to happen as he claimed. I still don't know why there's been no class action suit over that.
- Backing proper insane far right groups in Europe. These people are worse than Trump. I wouldn't say he is backing neonazis, but he's certainly in the vicinity.
Despite all that he clearly has a pretty good handle on engineering and is definitely involved. He's not just a figurehead.
I know right, people are multidimensional. You can downvote if that blows your mind.
For me the problem is that he LARPs as Tony Stark and idiots but into it. He pretends to be a smart engineer when he lucked into all of it and is really not all that bright.
Despite all that he clearly has a pretty good handle on engineering and is definitely involved. He’s not just a figurehead.
as far as I've read he actually doesn't, he just pretends to. You can see this in a lot of his interactions with his employees and the public. but yes, people are multidimensional. musk is a good salesman.
Along those lines, consider the decision for why the Model S charge port is where it is, according to Tesla's former chief engineer:
tl;dr: you don't want it directly in the front-center (like the Nissan Leaf) because a minor fender bender will ruin it. Front-driver's side is a good choice that a lot of other manufactures are going to. Elon didn't want that, because it didn't line up with his Bel Air garage. So they stuck it in back, but due to the way Tesla Superchargers are laid out, it now means Tesla drivers have to back into the parking space.
musk was a good salesman.
ftfy
I don't think that's even true. He just had enough money that he could fail 99 times before succeeding once, and the return from that one was enough that he could fail 999 times before succeeding, and so on.
He just threw money around until enough other people succeeded in big enough ways, and then he claims credit.
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Also Subsurface, a scuba diving log program, but that one is not quite as well known.
I believe his goto comment on git is that its current maintainer did/does far more work on git them him.
Thank god for that dude.
Handing over maintainership was not a hard choice. It was very much: "The moment somebody else comes along that I can trust to keep it going, I'll go back to doing just the kernel."
Priorities
Compare that with someone who wants the appearance of creating/maintaining something, without actually contributing musk of anything...
Nice
Turned out better than javascript.
Be thankful we got Javascript. We might have had TCL! 😱
Interesting footnote: the founding of Netscape occurred at the same time I was deciding where to go in industry when I left Berkeley in 1994. Jim Clarke and Marc Andreessen approached me about the possibility of my joining Netscape as a founder, but I eventually decided against it (they hadn't yet decided to do Web stuff when I talked with them). This is one of the biggest "what if" moments of my career. If I had gone to Netscape, I think there's a good chance that Tcl would have become the browser language instead of JavaScript and the world would be a different place! However, in retrospect I'm not sure that Tcl would actually be a better language for the Web than JavaScript, so maybe the right thing happened.
Definitely dodged a bullet there. Although on the other hand if it had been TCL there's pretty much zero chance people would have tolerated it like they have with Javascript so it might have been replaced with something better than both. Who knows...
The TV company?
Tool Command Language. It's a shitty stringly-typed scripting language from the 80s that took a neat hack (function bodies are string literals) way too far.
It's a bit less shit than Bash, but shitter than Perl.
Unfortunately the entire EDA industry has decided to use it as their scripting interface, which isn't too bad in itself - the commands they provide are pretty simple - but unfortunately it leads to people stupidly basing their entire EDA infrastructure on TCL rather than wrapping it in a saner language.
Thanks, I hate it even more
I expected someone to say that, and boom first comment lol
it's wild just doing git init instead of manually setting up /truck, /tags, and /branch every time.
It could've been mercurial, but I'm glad that didn't happen. Being shouted at in a mailing-list for fixing a bug doesn't sound like fun. Also, the amount of CPU resources that would be wasted running a VCS in python would be phenomenal. And have fun trying to develop a project using a separate python version than supported by your python VCS.
If Mercurial were as popular as Git I would presume that it would be rewritten in C or Rust, but who can say.
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