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"This is really going to impact institutions that we take for granted," Internet Archive director of archiving and data services Jefferson Bailey told the Standard, "like our museums, our historical societies, our public libraries, our academic libraries — just a lot of people that keep information free and accessible and online."

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[–] mortenrb@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

If you can, donate to them, even just a dollar. The Internet Archive is critical for preserving history! Heck, try to lobby your politicians to donate to them if you're outside of the U.S. (because that probably wouldn't work inside the US nowdays)

[–] vandsjov 17 points 10 hours ago
[–] hedhoncho@lemm.ee 36 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Ugh some asshole who’s only going to live a century depriving an endless future of historical knowledge. Musk needs to be detained and imprisoned.

[–] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

Yes, "detained." And "imprisoned." ☠️

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 34 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I wished we hadn't voted for him. Wait a minute...

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

If you are USian, you did vote for him, either by voting, by not voting, or by not doing enough to prevent it. We on the outside of the US dystopia do get to suffer the consequences without having voted either way.

[–] plantmoretrees@lemm.ee 29 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

He is literally a foreign terrorist. Deport his ass!

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 1 points 6 hours ago

Deport? Dude he is still a man of serious means. It won't stop him. He needs to be put in a supermax prison and in isolation. It is an intensely cruel punishment but the only appropriate one.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 5 points 12 hours ago

ironically hes from a country thats currently being influenced by russia too.

[–] power@lemm.ee 14 points 17 hours ago

they already faced cyber attacks now this? i mean, what can i say that hasn't already been said? keep on fighting for democracy!

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 43 points 22 hours ago

Modern book burnings create a lot less smoke and noise.

[–] TheGreenWizard@lemmy.zip 12 points 18 hours ago

They also have a merch store: https://store.archive.org/

[–] witnessbolt@lemm.ee 17 points 21 hours ago

He's a loser. As are all his "dark enlightenment" apartheid neo-Nazi bootlickers :-)

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 88 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Musk should really be removed from power.

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 3 points 8 hours ago

He should join a Mario game as the second player.

[–] Uppp@lemm.ee 20 points 1 day ago

Musk should be removed entirely. He has gone completely authoritarian.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 10 points 22 hours ago

no one voted him in power in the first place, doesnt that go directly against democracy too?

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Vacation to El Salvador. Permanent.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 12 hours ago

CECOT or gitmo.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Isn't he an illegal? Oh he isn't and you say he has papers? Oops! Sorry, cannot get him back, we don't have that kind of power, shrug emoji!

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

I didn't see any papers 👊 🇺🇸 🔥

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

he got in on a J-visa, so did his brother, he did something long enough so that him or his brother could permanently stay in the country. he allegedly was going to grad school? but quickly abandoned it once he got his citizenship.

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 80 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Isn't it weird how "doge" just goes after anything that actually benefits people?

[–] vandsjov 2 points 10 hours ago

They are just after things that doesn’t benefit them

[–] iowagneiss@midwest.social 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

To be replaced by something privately funded, if at all.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

Libertarians must be creaming their jorts.

[–] TheGreenWizard@lemmy.zip 8 points 20 hours ago

Time to donate again :)

[–] portnull@lemmy.dbzer0.com 83 points 1 day ago (3 children)

They used to burn books. Now they just defund information storage services.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 12 hours ago

sounds like the same thing.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 37 points 1 day ago (6 children)

You know what is so ironic? I remember not that long ago (OK, like 20 years ago...) that once something was on the internet, it is there forever as long as file sharing and multiple hosts do it... but it has become abundantly clearly that, despite the fact that it can be REALLY hard to get shit off the internet, it doesn't make it impossible. We've already seen it happen. The truth is, there is so much stuff that people DON'T widely share, and even then, the interest in their sharing in a torrent style is limited (I once downloaded leaked emails regarding transphobic propagandists talking to one another and while I kept seeding for almost a year, I barely got anyone downloading), that it is actually possible to make large amounts of stuff just vanish.

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think the real point of the adage, "once it's on the internet it's there forever" is more about the fact that you, personally, can't take it back. Someone might of screenshot, downloaded it, reuploaded it elsewhere. The real meaning being that, once it's on the internet, you no longer control it. Which I think still holds true, but it definitely was heavily implied that it would be there forever.

[–] portnull@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago

Pretty much this. Once you put it on the internet it's out of your control. It might disappear, it might not. Best just to assume it won't. Unless it's useful information, then it probably will.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've seen several examples of things wiped before, so I've always been a bit skeptical of that adage. I've seen several niche forums, or even forums of small newspapers - just go completely offline.

It might be these are still sitting around on backups somewhere and will some day come to light and be hosted by some entity in an open format...

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 6 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

I made forum posts going as far back as 2000. Almost all of them are gone forever due to the reasons you mentioned. Even the wayback machine might have a snapshot of the forum, but not the threads made them, and not the posts made within those threads.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 12 hours ago

i started joining forums in late 2000s when i was in CC, those were og"reddit" sites before i migrated to Y'Answers, then to reddit after that.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I'm wondering if any BBS posts I made way, way back when are on any drives anywhere. I'm sure it's possible. I'm pretty sure the USENET posts I made back in the day started to get archived by Google (at least) and I'm pretty they will be around for quite some time.

Proprietary things built and run by private tyrannies using no standard protocol (like NNTP or ActivityPub) I don't give much of a chance...

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I made BBS posts in the early-mid 90s. They don't exist anymore, because at that time the only BBSes I had any access to were local guys running one off a personal computer (and as such weren't even available 24/7). The DMs and chats that happened there? If those guys actually kept the logs and kept transferring them from HD to HD, then I'll be damned... but chances are likely they have disappeared into the ether.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

Same. Some of my friends ran BBSes back in the 80s in the fashion you talk about - at least one friend had parents who were comparatively rich/doting and had a second phone line (!) so one of them was up quite often. I think he ran his from a C64.

Sadly, I could not afford a modem at the time - and my parents were not too keen on the idea anyway, because they assumed I'd be running up big bills. I didn't have any access to a HD until late 1989 and that was all of 20MB (Mac SE). I didn't get into BBSes until 1991 because I finally had a modem and a phone line....

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[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 68 points 1 day ago (4 children)

$345,000?

That's like, 2 devs and an 8 CPU VM.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 45 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Holy shit, that's like not even a rounding error to the US Government. So obvious what he is doing.

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[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

That's 1/100th the price Trump paid to send innocent people to CECOT.

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