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The homosexual underground in action

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 45 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This sentence could land you in prison for life if they go ahead with "suspending" habeas corpus. Remember folks, if your detention cannot be challenged legally, it doesn't matter AT ALL whether your detention was legal. If you think they'll never come for you, you're forgetting that they'll rely on the volunteer army of MAGA "informers" who will turn you in for treason because you annoyed them by being kind to someone they were bullying or something completely trivial. Without habeas corpus, suspicion is sentencing.

[–] walktheplank@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

But the courts will save me...right?

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Also exactly what Hitler did with the Reichtag Fire Decree: https://alphahistory.com/nazigermany/the-reichstag-fire/

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 90 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Genius@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 4 points 2 hours ago

IIRC, white Jesus is specifically made to look like members of the Medici family, who were major sponsors of the same Renaissance artists who painted most of our iconic religious art.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 day ago

Because he's the son of God

And according to Europeans or those of European descent, the son of God has got to be white like them and not some dirty brown curly haired middle eastern Arab.

[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Probably because 95% oft all people in the medieval age and prior (where this specific depiction of portrait-jesus emerged) have never seen a black person all their life - including artists. Can't blame people for drawing people as they know them.

[–] Shezzagrad@lemmy.ml 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

They've seen Arabs and Semites haven't they... The land where jesus is from. Why you talking like jesus is from the heart of Africa

[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Because many haven't? It's not like people in medieval europe could take a quick trip with ryanair from tel aviv to berlin lmao. Black people in central europe were rare enough that many people have never seen one in their life. Most of them were around the borders of todays southern europe.

[–] Shezzagrad@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

I can already tell you're not at all well versed in this topic. Have you heard of a concept called trade mate? Did you know that before the Roman empire even existed a network of trade and safe passage was made that could traverse from China to the furthest western point of Europe including India, the steppes and African trade (east coast). Also you keep going back to 'black people" like wtf is this discount American eugenics take. Bro the religion is middle eastern, people knew what they looked like, there's thing thing called art and sculptures which help those who never seem one understand what they look like. But none of this even matters you turned into a race thing, it was a cultural shift, the 14th century did a white jesus start coming up in some obscure art and didn't really take off till the 20th century (white jesus) Just another fat L, Tel Aviv wasn't a thing back then, tf you choose that awful fucking city full of earth's worst people. call it by it's real name. Jaffa

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago

it was a cultural shift, the 14th century did a white jesus start coming up in some obscure art and didn't really take off till the 20th century (white jesus)

This is fundamentally incorrect, and I can prove it - better yet, someone else already has in these comments.

[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago

Have you heard of a concept called trade mate

Yes. That's why I have never said that nobody has ever seen one. Just that it's a rare occasion.

Also you keep going back to 'black people" like wtf is this discount American eugenics take ... But none of this even matters you turned into a race thing

Because the initial post I responded to was literally "Why he white tho". I didn't start the war.

Bro the religion is middle eastern

Catholicism is not middle eastern

the 14th century did a white jesus start coming up in some obscure art and didn’t really take off till the 20th century

Factually untrue - white jesus has already been a thing in the 4th - 6th century - even tho a lot less common. However, agreed that most depictions of white jesus are from that time - which does not change my point at all. They had no way to quickly travel during the renaissance.

Tel Aviv wasn’t a thing back then

No really? Crazy. Do you think ryanair didn't exist back then either? :o

It's almost as if I tried to make funny comparison, not a factual argument.

I can already tell you’re not at all well versed in this topic

Classic lemmy.ml L take. I swear you guys are so tiring.

[–] Genius@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Nah, Europe had black people.

[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I mean, yes, black people were present but in very small numbers, and their presence was rare enough that they often stood out significantly in the historical record. The most were probably around the southern borders of todays europe, like spain, italy and greece, but black people in todays germany, poland or even further up north were an absolute rarity. Even in southern europe, black people were rare enough that many people only saw a handful of them in their lifetime.

[–] Shezzagrad@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Germany nor Poland made the white jesus, your bringing up an entirely moot point

[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schmerzensmann

German art of jesus.

I don't know polish so idk what to look for, but I'm very certain I'd find some white jesus art from that timeframe from a polish artist.

Please fuck off, you lemmy.ml people are fucking uninformed beyond imagination but pretend you know everything. You are so obnoxious. Get out of my feed.

[–] Genius@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Many people only saw a hundred people in their lifetime. Most people were farmers. There were no trains or TV then.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Those people weren't the ones painting paintings and writing stories

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 points 4 hours ago

Yeah, but these were painted in Italy.

They've barely got any black people even now.

[–] Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah the Moors controlled the Iberian peninsula for nearly 800 years from 711-1492.

[–] Kornblumenratte@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The moors were mostly Arabs and Berbers, though.

Yes, and Jesus was from the middle east, so the people of europe would not be unaware of what people from there might look like.

[–] VirgilMastercard@reddthat.com 67 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Gays, immigrants, and marginalised people together strong 💪

[–] Aufschieber@lemmy.world 49 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And please acknowledge the fact they called it Gulf of Mexico instead of Gulf of "America"!

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

Twas the cherry on top.

[–] daepicgamerbro69@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

or some uptight twitter green smartass (cia bot) about the fact that they were on diesel guzzling cruiser.

[–] Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Are you saying that only the Central Intelligence Agency wants the USA to stop using destructive and limited fuel sources?

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No, but the CIA wants to discredit critics by making progressives look extreme with ridiculous psyop campaigns.

[–] VirgilMastercard@reddthat.com 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I remember the one where the so-called feminist pours bleach on men on the train who are "manspreading". Although that one turned out to be Russian in origin. Same sort of thing however.

[–] daepicgamerbro69@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

yes, that is 100% precisely what i am saying it's right there in my comment right next to the part that says you're a moron.

[–] Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You could have just said "Yes, you're correct", no need to compliment me aha

[–] RoundSparrow@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

daepicgamerbro69 : right next to the part that says you’re a moron.

Lyra,

You said in another post today you have memory problems. I have extreme severe brain damage. Maybe you have problems like I do?

no need to compliment me aha

Do you go all over Lemmy being insincere and mocking what you don't grasp or understand?

You could have just said “Yes, you’re correct”

You could have said that to me as moderator of my community when you seem highly confused and made a claim a post broke rules. But instead, you insulted me instead of actually addressing your misunderstanding.

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Incredibly based

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