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I get that Steam is where everything and everyone is at. And that the user experience and functionality is best there BUT having another player to try an compete with Steam is a good thing, right?

If anyone can try, it's the Fortnite Bank.

So, why the hate?

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[–] CallateCoyote@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

I rather gladly take my free games from them.

[–] CameronDev@programming.dev 40 points 1 day ago (15 children)

My dislike of epic is that they seem to be buying their way into competing, instead of actually competing on features.

Free games sounds good now, but what happens when the fortnite gravy train runs out, and epic needs to start making a profit? They'll likely have to enshittify fast.

Steam at least has a solid history of being generally good. But who knows what will happen if Gaben ever ascends.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 day ago

Yeah, if they stopped spending money on exclusivity, they could invest in store features.

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[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

Couple other things to add to this beautiful list others have: meta gaming and chat.

They barely added achievements and only for a couple games, while steam has that, guides, community art, and even a newish notes feature in case you're playing an OG game that makes you track stuff. Guides have kind of been better than more traditional sources.

Chat is... better on steam, although discord kind of supplanted it. Game based emoji, stickers, etc. It's actually very good, though, with support for couch coop stream gaming, etc, with voice comms.

One could also point to the generous family sharing function, but I'm not sure what Epic does in that regard. DRM is DRM though. Do keep in mind, though, the philosophy behind Steam is to make DRM palatable by adding features. Epic philosophy (on paper) is to give devs a higher cut, although I've heard devs feel more supported by steam-- especially since they aren't afraid to throw obscure indie games into a users discovery queue.

[–] Ashtear@lemm.ee 16 points 1 day ago

We don't own our games anymore, so I need to know my library's going to stick around if I'm going to invest in it. Last I heard, EGS hasn't made a profit, so that doesn't exactly inspire confidence in me that it'll still be around in five years.

I think competition is the answer to a lot of problems consumers face, but unfortunately the "are you going to be there tomorrow?" problem is going to be a major disadvantage for any storefront that competes with Steam. It's why my most preferred shop is GOG, because I still have all my games with them if they close up.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

ITT: Epic is awful, Steam is great!

Me: Is GOG a joke to you people???

[–] MolochAlter@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Kinda, unfortunately.

It was great when it had its niche, and I still buy games there occasionally, but it has poorer integration with pretty much anything, Galaxy is bloated as hell, and it has explicitly no linux/deck support.

Eta: apparently GOG actively funds Heroic launcher, didn't know that, thanks for pointing it out to me.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So I learned recently that GOG actively funds Heroic. Which really takes some weight off of Heroic's support for GOG game autopatching and cloud saves, meaning it may be a bit hacky and officially in "beta", but it's very unlikely for GOG to object to its presence.

They may not "officially" support Linux, but they don't "explicitly" lack support.

Also, tip of the hat to Heroic, it works extremely well and very reliably. I was frustrated with Lutris and I am bummed out by how Galaxy didn't quite get there as the one universal support launcher to handle all your libraries, but Heroic is good enough as a replacement I don't mind nearly as much anymore. Even on Windows I'd consider it over Galaxy.

[–] MolochAlter@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh, that's actually nice to hear, makes me re-evaluate gog somewhat.

I don't use heroic much but it's never too late to start.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 7 points 1 day ago

Yep. As I understand it it's via affiliate links, so if you buy GOG games through the storefront in the Heroic UI they get a small cut, but the Heroic devs say they have spoken to GOG reps and they are broadly supportive, so unless that changes I don't think their ability to support GOG features would be compromised any time soon.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 20 points 1 day ago

I bought a couple games on epic when they were cheaper. I don't think I'd do so again.

  • the client isn't as good. It's slower, the way it paginates your games (I got a lot of free ones) is annoying. It really wants to show you store stuff
  • less (zero?) Linux support
  • don't think it does the game recording steam does
  • I don't think it has the remote play together steam does

There's probably other stuff I'm not thinking of. It's just not as good a service.

[–] QuadratureSurfer@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

Here's another win for Steam:

Subnautica has a multiplayer mod, but it only works with an older version of the game. Steam lets you downgrade the version, Epic games does not.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 1 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

There are a few layers to it. I'll start with the legit reasons and hope the jackasses don't read too deep in:

  1. EGS was built around the idea of providing what people need/want rather than EVERYTHING. Some of that was truly asinine (no shopping cart for like 2 years?) and some was a conscious choice based on everyone saying they don't want their video game store to be a social media network. Unfortunately... people apparently DO want their video game store to be social media.
  2. Every store handles regional pricing and distribution differently and, allegedly, EGS had worse coverage in a few of the countries The Internet actually knows exists.
  3. Tim Sweney is a complete and utter dipshit and always has been and it is REALLY hard to not hate everything he touches.
  4. EGS rapidly entwined itself with Fortnite because Fortnite makes more than the GDP of some small nations. But we are hardcore gamers so we all hate Fortnite.
  5. Sweeney/Epic actually accidentally argued for consumer rights against Apple which, in turn, led to the full force of Apple running smear campaigns against Epic to make sure that we all realized how much we love walled gardens
  6. Sweeney/Epic ALSO kind of picked a fight with Steam by pointing out how little developers get from any given sale. Which... because we all love Valve means that Epic are assholes and developers all actively want to strive to get the negotiating power of a Call of Duty or Rockstar.
  7. Speaking of. EGS isn't Valve and any alternative is inherently evil because we all love Valve.

So what was a mediocre store with a lot of free games and a tendency to give developers a giant sack of money for one year of exclusivity became The Devil.

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[–] Aux@feddit.uk 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

As others said, EGS is just a fucking cancer, not a competition. A good competition to Steam is actually Microsoft App Store. It's a very streamlined mobile-like experience.

[–] Hikuro93@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Console gamer here as well, though with a PC and redeeming my weekly Epic Games since a few years back. I sometimes play on my PC, but mostly games I don't have on my console.

Most of what I hear I believe it's mostly due to the Epic Launcher being quite a bit behind standard, and the store not having great costumer service policies. I think Epic's games with timed exclusivity don't garner a lot of respect from the gaming community either, as they rather have freedom of choice to purchase their games on their main storefront.

Now, I think it'll be obvious, but all of what I mentioned is further impacted by the comparison between Epic (or most other launchers, really) and Steam. Steam might as well be called the "default launcher" at this point, and naturally not everyone can compete (or they don't want to) with the numerous and consistently good business decisions Steam tends to have, which keeps it in the top.

Not only that, and even though I still benefit from it, I'd say Epic's strategy of offering weekly free games might feel like a sort of 'obvious bribe' to some, a cheap way to try and vainly make gamers turn on their main competitor. Which isn't really moving the needle that much, because gamers preference for Steam isn't due to free games, but good and consumer-oriented business practices.

I'm sure from gamer to gamer there's more depth to this, but I'd say that's the gist of it.

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