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Nah, I'm advocating for people using the currently designed system to not be a bunch of slow and distracted morons.
The topic of completely gutting current city Laputa and restructuring them to be designed for pedestrian traffic at the forefront would be ideal, but was not the topic being discussed.
Design the roads so that they are unpleasant to use above the speed you are trying to achieve. This method has had great success in the Netherlands.
But then we can't just cut and paste the same lane design regardless if it is a school zone or a freeway.
Last year, I think it was on the War on Cars podcast, their guest was a disillusioned traffic engineer that called his entire field "a fraud discipline." Like they put absolutely no critical thought into their designs as long as they are built to the exacting code.
Love that podcast and I remeber them comparing the mentality they use for roads and how delusional it would be for just about any other engineering field to follow that mentality.
Do these designs have any impact on emergency vehicles? Or do they cost more to put in than a regular road? Do they make driving less efficient and cause more emissions? Can they be ignored like lights or stop signs?
I feel like speed cameras might be a better solution than speed bumps or other road barriers. Penalize the bad drivers up to and including taking away their driver's license if they can't comply with the rules, allow emergency vehicles to somewhat the need to do, and collect some revenue to offset the cost of enforcement of safety.
Traffic sign/signal camera are a good idea too. If you can't/won't follow the rules of the road, I think you should pay fines and eventually have your license removed. Cameras are a far more effective way to do that than officers.
Sounds like they were working as intended. In France they have speed cameras on the highway that average your speed over a distance and mail speeders tickets too, should be everywhere. Silly to stop such a wildly successful public safety campaign, if anything it’s clear this is a real problem and the program should be expanded. Why is signage needed? Follow the rules and don’t get a ticket is already a very well publicized concept, don’t speed and the cameras aren’t a problem
Over the summer months, when the cameras snap a pic of a speeder they will receive a warning in the mail rather than a fine. The city says it hopes the strategy will reduce driving speeds through awareness rather than punitive measures.
This is an intelligent and measured move. Make citizens aware that enforcement exists. Then, after making them aware that they're being monitored, turn on fines. The goal is to reduce speeding drivers, not to collect revenue.
The goal is to reduce speeding drivers, not to collect revenue.
Then there's cities like Winnipeg where successive city halls have decided that speeding tickets are the bestest cash cow ever!
That cash should go directly into the city to redesign these problems roadways created for cars into streets designed for people.
It should be 1 warning then you get tickets. Right now speeders can keep getting as many warnings as they want and wait to hear on the news when the fines will be implemented.
Most people I know get several 11-15km over tickets all at once a month after the infraction. They've already noticed or been told about the machine by the time they get the first ticket, and adjusted their driving.
The real reason is the local politicians and their families started getting tickets too, and they're not happy. So the program has been put on pause.
Ding Ding Ding.
If they had given council members a device to shut off the cameras for themselves and rich donors then they wouldn't have shut it down.
Maybe they should consider changing the speed limits a bit.
Maybe they should consider changing the speed limits a bit.
Or, hear me out, people could make the needle on their dash point at the same number as the one printed on the giant white signs all over.
The solution is better road-way design and classifications.
Changing a speed limit sign on a roadway does not change the roadways "designed" or "perceived" speed limit.
When changing signage, the roadway also need to change.
Example, you can't increase the signed speed limit to 100 kph on a residential street without first a complete redesign of said street into a hwy. This is done by removing driveways, speedbumps, crosswalks, stop signs, and roundabouts. Without this redesign of the roadway this residential street would not make a really good hwy. The exact reverse is true. A hwy does not make a good residential street.
council is due to receive a report from staff on ways the city can create more effective signage about the presence of cameras.
Are you fucking kidding me?
It's like pointing out to thieves where all the cameras in a bank are.
The speed limit sign is the only information drivers need. If they are going faster, it's a ticket.
These automated speed cameras seem to be working exactly as intended. The 32,000 speeders can go fuck right off.
I mean I think its fine if people "know" the places they have to slow down for the cameras, if those places pose a greater risk of damage/injury from speeding than others.
Sometimes I see police cruisers on the side of the road flashing their lights on which seems like a similar principle: they aren't trying to catch anyone but they are trying to slow them down through the area and it's effective.
I don't get cameras except as a way to get fines money. If you wanted to actually slow traffic, you'd spend that infrastructure money on calming measures that work immediately and constantly. Cameras take effect weeks after the offence (in a small number of people) and only serves to make people watch for cameras instead of the traffic around them. Cameras have a very small area of effect and only for people that see them or know where they are.
If the point is just to punish speeders, make money, and not fix the problem, then by all means, install a few cameras.
The cost of a couple of cameras is significantly less investment and significantly less disruption than the needed infrastructure changes. We are talking 10s of thousands to operate the cameras versus millions to rehabilitate just 1 road. We need to fight for roads to be upgraded to safer standards when they are due for repaving.
The idea of speed cameras is to get drivers to slow down. To have 30k tickets after their install shows that they're not doing the job of getting people to slow down.
Its only been 3 weeks and we don't have much data on how many of them were repeat offenders. We need to give more time for peoples driving habits to adapt to the consequences.
The cameras are much cheaper than cops are for the same level of enforcement and the revenue can be used to further invest in roadway safety like lane narrowing and traffic calming.
The truth is, the speeding issue has been many years in the making as enforcement hasn't been able to keep up with the number of drivers and 15-20 over became normalized. We aren't going to reverse that trend in just 3 weeks.