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Hey guys, there is a lot of troll baiting in this thread. You've been doing a great job of not falling for it, so I'm not going to lock it. Newbies to this thread, check the times of when it was made and if it brings up the distant past a lot, those are good clues. Leave one comment at most to save everyone's sanity.
Not sure who still isn't getting this.
There is a literal American traitor in the Oval Office. One who has flagrantly violated the law, and specifically the Constitution, numerous times.
Impeachment is meaningless, as we've witnessed multiple times in American history. Impeachment is an acceptable process if the violation is minimal and not repeated. It's a slap on the wrist. A warning.
We are WAY beyond a symbolic slap on the wrist with no real repercussions. Impeachment is not a valid tool to use in a situation like this. At minimum, we are at the point where there needs to be massive protests like we just saw, repeatedly, until he is removed from office. If that fails, then there needs to be a general strike until he's removed. If that fails, then he needs to be removed from office by force.
If we can't manage these things, we will continue seeing the degradation of our freedoms, the collapse of our economy, the destruction of our founding document, signaling the end of our democracy, and the hole we'll end up finding ourselves in will be one we won't see this country come out of for the remainder of our lives.
It is time to remove this traitor and his treasonous enablers from their positions of power.
Twice!
They had a better chance of impeaching him for Jan 6th for actual insurrection than they do this time. Why? Because there are so many legal loop holes with the War Time Powers Act and the 2001 Authorization of The Use of Military Force. These loopholes were used by both Bush Jr. and Obama for various justifications for air strikes so the precedent is already there. Don't get your hopes up and chalk up it up political theater. It's also a distraction from what's going on. Thanks again to Twatter being that megaphone of "HEY LOOK OVER HERE!"
We haven't declared war since WW2. Everything has been AUMF, which can be done within 60 days retroactively. As always, the government is checks and balances, so if Congress refuses to exercise its powers and let the executive do whatever, it's a moot point.
I think it'd only lead to impeachment if Congress wants us gone within 60 days and Trump refuses, continues without an AUMF, and then Congress actually had the balls to push back at that point.
But if someone is more familiar with the legal processes involved here, please do correct me or add to this.
Donny will never get out of this one!!!
If that dude knew how to fucking aim
Oh, you mean like how he was impeached in his first term in office and nothing changed?
Both impeachments were acquitted by the Senate after the House passed them.
Point taken, but I don't see it going any differently this time around.
Nope. Its theater.
Sorry, you can only be impeached for getting a beej (although that was creepy af from an intern) or wearing a tan suit.
Starting wars just won't do it.
Unfortunately, I don't know if anyone would be willing to give Trump a BJ, and if they did, they certainly wouldn't admit it in court.
Oop, that's another impeachable offense in the pile.
100 impeachable offenses you must try before you die
Yep just add it to the list
Will it even matter?
I see two outcomes:
or
There is no version of this that ends in removal, and even impeachment wouldn't be anything more than performative outrage.
The majority of sitting representatives have been waiting for an acceptable excuse to bomb Iran for decades. The only objection any of them have is doing so without manufacturing consent from voters first, but we've already seen how this plays out with Afghanistan. They'll drum up dubious evidence of WMD's and launch their entry, and then spend 20 years trying to 'get out' while securing Iran's material resources on the way.
The only difference this time is that Iran has almost 5x the population and 100x the GDP of Afghanistan in 2001, plus an actual organized military base with proper advanced weapons manufacturing. There's a reason we've waited this long to actually do this, and it isn't because we were busy doing other things. It's because this isn't a war we can win without pulling everyone else into it (or at the very least without isolating them from global trading partners).
It's not a morbid joke to call this a WWIII softlaunch.
That ship has sailed decades ago. The US hasn't been officially at war since 1945, and the congress has for all intents and purposes gave up on that power.
The speed Congress gave up their constitutional powers to avoid repurcusions for having opinions and voting for them is crazy. But I guess being able to give yourself a raise every year for doing nothing is tempting.
Yeah lets impeach the already twice impeached president, surely third times the charm... right guys ?
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So? Nothing will ever come with it.
The corruption of our nation is absolute.
The president is a Nazi.
Thr people working for him are Nazis.
They are carrying out a Nazi agenda.
They are illegally starting wars illegally kidnapping Americans and illegally using our own armed forces against us.
The time for resistance is passed.
It’s time for survival.
No. No this is about the time for resistance. We shouldn't just skip that one
Exactly. I'm so tired of this doomer "we've tried nothing and it hasn't worked" stance on the Trump regime. RESIST, people!
To be fair, we've tried a lot of things. Compliance, assistance, book licking, collaborating....
Which the Democrats should absolutely fucking do regardless of whether The Republicans will vote to convict, which of course they won’t, but the point is, we can’t just sit back and do nothing. We have to at least show that we’re willing to take the steps that are necessary to dissent.
Trump has already been impeached.
Twice.
The last time he was president.
It doesn't matter anymore.
The cop at the protest yawns, unslings his 40mm LMT™ weapon, loads another rubber bullet into it, looks around the crowd for another reporter, aims, and shoots her in the head.
Idealistic youngling: "Wow, that cop just shot a woman in the head with a rubber bullet, he could totally be charged for that!"
In 2001 when The US authorized use of force on Al-Qaeda that, along with The 1973 war powers resolution gave the president (as in the position of president, not just Bush) unlimited ability to bomb anyone loosely associated with Al-Qaeda in perpetuity.
It's what allowed Bush, then Obama, then Trump, and then Biden, and now Trump again, to use the military as they see fit for performing military operations against basically any state and group in the middle east.
This is sadly likely the least impeachable thing he's done in office.
Ah yes, I remember Obama getting impeached for bombing Syria.
And for that matter, Trump getting impeached for killing Soleimani, the leader of Iran, while he was in Iraq.
Soleimani was the commander of the Quds Force, a division of the Iranian military and high-ranking official but he wasn't the leader of Iran.
Who cares? He was inoeached before already and it literally did NOTHING
Wake me up when this bullshit is actually over, all this "oohh, THIS will end him for sure!" every week is tiring
I completely agree.
However, this is exactly what he wants. The more tired we all become of his bullshit and the more we wave it away then the more bullshit he pulls, and gets away with.
If someone, anyone, had given him any consequences to his actions over the past few decades he wouldn't be like he is. If just one person took him outside and beat the living fuck out of him then I feel things would be different.
Things definitely wouldn't be like they are now. They may not be much better, but they would be better.
Again, I agree it's tiring. But I also think we shouldn't give up.
So I hope you, and anyone who reads this, starts to feel less of "this is tiring!" And more of "this is tiring l.. but we can't let that rich obese orange rapist drag me down and get away with it!"
Don't give up!! Fight him. Pull him up on every single thing and ridicule him.