What about to Israel?
crickets as truckload after truckload of weapon drives by headed for a genocide
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exactly, they fear they won't have enough weapons to give to Israel.
Pathetic that the way Israel uses weapons is basically playing a lottery where they randomly decide to murder a starving, defenseless Palestinian like some awful game show and the way Ukraine would use those same weapons is to save lives.
Naturally people will blame Trump because he doesn't really care about Ukraine, but this was inevitable when Israel started sucking up all of the USs military aid. Without a massive increase in industrial capacity to build even more weapons, eventually, the stockpiles were always going to run low.
If you truly believe our stockpiles are low, I have a bridge in Brooklyn for sale.
We blame Trump because it wasn't inevitable. He lied to Americans about Gaza. He tore up the nuclear agreement with Iran. A lack of weapons is entirely Trump's fault.
Lying to Americans about Gaza has been the bipartisan policy our entire lives lol
... although, yeah, him tearing up the nuclear deal in his first term and his Arab-Israeli normalization plan to unite Israel and the Gulf states against Iran actually might have set us on this course. The nuclear deal could have potentially brought Iran in-line with US interests in the region, and he blew that up. Normalization, meanwhile, was basically the reason for Operation Al-Aqsa Flood which started this phase of the Israeli genocide against Palestinians (to be clear, the genocide was ongoing before Oct 7th).
In the counter-factual, where Hilary won and the nuclear deal was maintained and Iran was brought in with the rest of the Gulf states in alliance against China, Israel probably would have been able to carry out its ethnic cleansing of Palestine without a war. Instead, thanks to Trump, Israel is going to destroy itself trying to wage war on all of its neighbors and will be broken against the Axis of Resistance.
Lying to Americans about Gaza
Kamala lost because she wouldn't lie!
She still lied. She openly refused to call it a genocide, she said Israel was "defending" itself, and she helped Biden sell the lie that they were working tirelessly for a ceasefire and a two state solution. That's all lies too.
In what way?
She said she supported Israel. Meanwhile Trump was in battleground states telling Michigan Muslims he supported Gaza.
Nobody genuinely believed that Trump would support Gaza, even the article says he would bring "peace," which as anyone knows would require the dissolution of the state of Israel and a full, secular, democratic Palestine. Harris lost because she campaigned to the right of Biden, who was already right-wing.
Nobody genuinely believed that Trump would support Gaza,
Muslims believed him and voted for him. That's what the NPR article I linked was about.
Harris lost because she campaigned to the right of Biden
Which, as I said, is because she didn't lie.
Trump was not campaigning to the Left. A huge proportion of Deerborn voted for Jill Stein, not Trump. Some did, but nobody in any significant numbers thought Trump would be better for genocide.
Harris could have told the truth and not run a far-right campaign.
Harris could have told the truth and not run a far-right campaign.
? She said she supported Israel. That's telling the truth.
Muslims didn't agree with Harris so voted for Trump who said he supported Palestine. It's not theoretical. More Muslims voted for Trump. That's why there's an NPR article about their leopards eating faces moment.
No, I mean she could have been truthful, and she could have run a leftward campaign.
As for Muslim voters, a small portion voted for Trump, but another portion voted for Jill Stein. If Harris wanted to get votes from Muslim voters, her and Biden could have not supported genocide.
No, I mean she could have been truthful, and she could have run a leftward campaign
You mean she could have been an entirely different person? She supported Israel. To say otherwise would have been a lie.
Trump said he supported Palestinians and got Muslim votes in key states.
She could have run an entirely different campaign, one appealing to workers, but she didn't. Trump also said he supported Israel. Your point is veering on "muslims are too stupid to realize Trump is a Zionist too," which is horrible. Reconsider the options and see how Mamdani is doing very well, the US wants candidates to the left of the DNC, and the DNC won't do it because they'd rather lose.
She could have run an entirely different campaign
That has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that she didn't lie. You wanted her to be someone else. That's valid. But she didn't lie about her position on Israel.
Your point is veering on "muslims are too stupid to realize Trump is a Zionist too,"
Trump lied about Palestinians. I provided proof that it was believed and his lies influenced the election.
No, you provided evidence of a minor swing and a testemonial from one person. This wasn't 4D chess.
I provided proof of one lie having an influence. It wasn't one person's testimonial.
"This year, President-elect Donald Trump received the most support out of any presidential candidate, with 42% of the vote in Dearborn. "
Muslims don't only live in Dearborn.
How is lying to win an election 4d chess?
Deerborn isn't entirely Muslim, either, many sat out of the election, and people still voted for Trump last election cycle in Deerborn.
Do you believe if Harris promised to support Palestine and immediately bring peace, she would have won the election?
That would have helped, sure, but it would have had to be genuine. The real reason Harris lost is because she ran a right-wing campaign when the working class has been increasingly radicalized.
but it would have had to be genuine.
Why does it matter that Harris had to be genuine but it's ok for Trump to lie to get those votes?
Because Trump never campaigned on being good for Palestine, you linked a liberal news site trying to shift the blame of a horribly run campaign from the DNC to muslim voters.
"Biden I'm working constantly trying to get Israel to do a ceasefire" Constantly sends them weapons
Israel: "Joe Biden has never said the word ceasefire to us".
Liberals: "Trump is so unique for lying to us about Israel! It's totally not just a reflection of the systems flaws itself!"
There is a huge difference between Biden selling weapons to Israel and Trump bombing Iran.
Biden selling weapons to Israel
*Giving
Stop trying to white wash the old ghoul.
Congress controls money. Biden could not give anything. It was Israel buying with its US allowance because Congress had previously given Israel money. Biden sped up the buying process by letting it go through immediately without Congressional approval.
Joe Biden would have bombed Iran too. You think he's fine partaking in a genocide but draws the line at bombing Iran?
The MIC makes these decisions, the presidents role is to sell it to you.
Biden was VP for Obama when Iran signed the nuclear deal. He didn't bomb Iran when he last president. He absolutely would not have bombed Iran.
Just like Biden didn't deploy ICE as Gestapo.
GTFO with "both sides are the same."
Take your head out of the sand
who's stockpile? Israel's?
after concern that US stockpiles are running too low
Sure they still give more to Isn'treal regardless
This time next year, Ukraine will be "The" Ukraine again. Thousands will be murdered. And in a hundred years, the history books will put the blame squarely on the Incredible Bulk.
the history books will put the blame squarely on the Incredible Bulk.
Oh God, I certainly hope we don't have annoying reddit liberals writing our history books a hundred years from now
If they send arms to Ukraine, what will they have left to put down the US citizenry with, right? We can't all fit in alligator-adjacent tents. 😶
mirrored my thoughts.