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Only good Nazi is a dead Nazi.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

These dumb fuckers STILL haven’t figured out the Streisand effect.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 1 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Who owns the app that gets the location data of every illegal immigrant? Maye they do know the Streisand effect.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago

There are easier ways to get that data without having to trick people into downloading an app. Trump has palantir and Israel in his pocket. He already knows where they all are. The app just lets us all know where they are.

Trump doesn’t like playing a fair game because he can’t win those.

[–] mriswith@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

While you're right to be skeptical, if they just wanted to collect data they would have an Android version. And their stated reason for not supporting it, is that push notifications on Android would require them to at store device-IDs, which they want to avoid for privacy reasons and being vulnerable to subpoenas.

[–] dastanktal@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

~~Did anyone else notice that you couldn't use this on an Android device because it it may put the people who use it at risk?~~

~~For shame Android~~

Developer may not actually understand how phones work

https://lemmy.ml/comment/19647328

[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago

Yeah, but I think it's also because Republicans are downloading it and using it to spread fake ice raid claims, to confuse. So, I don't think the numbers are necessarily because people hate ice or whatever.

Guess we'll see.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 293 points 1 week ago (10 children)

She said that there's been a 500 percent increase against ICE agents who are just "trying to do their jobs and remove public safety threats from... communities."

Exactly what the Nazis who ran extermination camps claimed.

[–] frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world 19 points 6 days ago

Exactly. Basically "wahhhh this is making it harder for the kidnappers to kidnap people!! stop using the app they're just trying to do their jobs pls feel sorry for them 😭 "

[–] Pendorilan@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

Well, when you kidnap people in the street assaults against you can happen.

[–] natecox@programming.dev 80 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I loathe and despise using percentages like this.

500% sounds super scary, but is meaningless without providing the baseline. If there was only one instance before and now there’s 5 it isn’t a significant increase but 500% sure sounds scary.

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 100 points 1 week ago (11 children)

We need a federated equivalent. Anything centralized can be stopped.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 13 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Federation is an overly complicated solution it's not required. It also wouldn't actually help, they can still take it off the app store there'd be another one but they would just play whack-a-mole and you can achieve the same thing with open source.

The best bet would be to have the database hosted outside the US and just have apps that pull the data from an API. There's no need for the app itself to store the data in fact that's a really stupid way to do it. You could federate it if you wanted but honestly that's probably unnecessary

Honestly yeah, if we can just torrent the database and have it stored outside the U.S then it's good

[–] Enkimaru@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Facepalm. If the App does not store the data in a 5 mile radius ... how do you at least see the latest status when the power and internet is down?

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 6 days ago

I can't tell if you're serious or not.

If the internet is down then I don't have access to the app store. Also if the internet's down then the data is going to be out of date almost immediately anyway so any cached version would be useless.

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[–] three_trains_in_a_trenchcoat@piefed.social 95 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"He's giving a message to criminals where our federal officers are," Bondi said. "...we are looking at it, we are looking at him, and he better watch out, because that's not a protected speech. That is threatening the lives of our law enforcement officers throughout this country."'

Actually, I believe it is protected speech. There are apps that let people know where speed traps are. You mean it's not constitutionally protected to say to someone "hey, did you see the cop down on the corner?" Ridiculous. Of course, what she means to say is that the constitution doesn't matter and laws are made up now, and they're just going to do whatever the fuck they want. They're just not quuuuuite ready to go through the trouble of literally setting the constitution on fire yet.

[–] Enkimaru@lemmy.world -4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It is definitely not constitutional protected free speech. Because constitution has nothing to say in this matter. On the other hand there is no law restricting such speech either. Making a law against it, that is valid under the constitution, would be tricky however.

[–] aramova@infosec.pub 2 points 6 days ago

Making a law against it, that is valid under the constitution...

The part that says...

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assem- ble, and to petition the Government for a re- dress of grievances.

Make a law against the part that says not to make a law against it?

I mean, it's idiotic and on message for Trump.

[–] dataprolet@lemmy.dbzer0.com 91 points 1 week ago (7 children)
[–] DahGangalang@infosec.pub 30 points 6 days ago

Thanks for the heads up.

Saw it wasn't on F-Droid and was going to ask for source page (to get through Obtanium), but looks like they're allergic to android and derivates. Appreciate you pointing to references.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

...iOS forces uses Apple services including getting apps through Apple...

Can't speak to the rest of the claims, but Android practically does too. If one has to sideload an app, you've lost 99% of users, if not more.

It makes me suspect they're not talking about the stock systems OEMs ship.

Relevant XKCD: https://xkcd.com/2501/

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

It makes me suspect they’re not talking about the stock systems OEMs ship.

The developers of GrapheneOS, an independent, security-oriented Android distribution are probably not only talking about stock OEM Android. What they're saying is true about stock OEM android though.

That's a separate issue from whether users are forced to get all their software from a specific source, which is also separate from whether users will actually use other sources when given the option.

On Android, developers can offer users a way to install an app that isn't easily traced to their identity and on iOS they can't. Furthermore, an Android app can be both on the Play store and available from other sources; there's no exclusivity.

[–] Enkimaru@lemmy.world -2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You got that "tracked to their identity" opposite around. The reason why there is no Android App is, if the phone gets "found" the data about the user/owner is an open book.

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

This is not one of the claims made by the ICEBlock developers; their claims are only to do with notifications.

If you want to claim that a locked Android device is substantially easier for law enforcement to break in to than a locked iPhone, please cite up-to-date (from 2025) sources.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 52 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Glad others have pointed this out. Their "reasons" for not supporting 70% of worldwide smartphones via Android seemed very suspect.

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[–] thedruid@lemmy.world 83 points 1 week ago (13 children)

Good. I hope they're terrified. The same as their victims

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