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[–] nthavoc@lemmy.today 2 points 1 hour ago

Good to see someone took the scam of Lay Away and convinced an entire generation this is fine for things they will never own, even if they pay it off.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Nothing inside a video game should cost real money. Ban the entire business model.

Nobody thinks games should cost $1000. Yet that's how much this abusive business model can extract from individual players. For hats. You don't even get all the hats! When there's not straight-up gambling, there's still a constant trickle of bullshit, because some schmuck will think a static model with a particle effect is worth the price of several entire video games.

The total content of these games, even a decade in, is unremarkable. The least objectionable examples still want $200 to have all the characters, in a 1v1 fighter. Whoop de doo. Defenders can only insist Capcom used to gouge people even harder. The shit y'all put up with might be worse than annual sportsball releases.

The far end of that spectrum now needs an installment plan. How fucky does an industry have to get, before people stop going 'but arcades?' This shit is already half the revenue in gaming. It's getting worse, and it's spreading. It's in full-price, flagship-franchise, single-player games. If we allow this to continue there will be nothing else.

[–] SolOrion@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm fine with it for f2p games. The monetization is sometimes awful in those, but it's also sometimes perfectly fine. I just want one monetization model. Either have microtransations and ingame purchases(preferably that don't actually effect the gameplay), or have your game cost money up front, and maybe have some DLCs. Pick one. No more $40 games with battlepasses and buyable skins.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Any product that can take one thousand dollars from someone, in exchange for what would typically earn a studio twenty dollars, is not differentiated by whether it has a cover charge.

The tolerable monetization model is: just sell games. They're not services - they're products. You buy them and own them.

[–] SolOrion@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

Nothing inside a video game should cost real money. Ban the entire business model.

Is most of what I was referring to. I don't mind things in games costing money, as long as the game itself doesn't costs money. I also don't mind live service games, at least in concept. They're very rarely good games, but good examples do exist.

A lot of what I think you're talking about is based on player trading, is it not? Maybe I don't know the games you're talking about. I don't think Valve sets the prices for hats, and I don't think DE sets prices for rivens. They're tradeable, so a market forms. To be clear, I think paying $1000 for a hat is absolutely insane, but I also don't see how it's functionally different than paying an absurd amount of money for a trading card you have no intention of using.

Are there games actually asking $1000 for literally anything in-game? Not a player set price, to be clear.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 26 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Born just in time to finance horse armor.

[–] NJSpradlin@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago

Cosmetic horse armor

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 15 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Is there literally anything that would be worse to use financing to buy than DLC?

You can finance pulls for a gacha game, if you want something worse.

[–] Nikls94@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago

Using financing to buy microtransactions?

[–] Vegeta@lemmy.ca 9 points 13 hours ago

I hate this.

[–] besselj@lemmy.ca 20 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

If a game company tries to convince customers to finance DLC or microtransactions, their products are probably shit

[–] lennee@lemmy.world 12 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

and too expensive lol

[–] brot@feddit.org 10 points 13 hours ago

This really is a new low - Get people hooked on your game with addictive mechanics. Suck the money out of them. When they're broke, drive them into debt

[–] BruisedMoose@piefed.social 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

And I read the other day that "buy now pay later" loans will be hitting your credit report now, so I'm sure this will definitely help make America great again. What could go wrong?

[–] RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 7 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

And from what I've heard, they can ONLY impact it negatively.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 9 hours ago

That's fucking diabolical