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[–] IronKrill@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

This letter has to be one of the greatest rage-bait posts ever. Trump really know how to do it.

the United States of America has agreed to continue working with Canada, despite Canada having financially retaliated against the United States

Barely and only after he swung the first blow and started shit over nothing, yeah.

the United States imposed Tariffs on Canada to deal with our National Fentanyl crisis, which is caused, in part, by Canada's failure to stop the drugs from pouring into our Country.

"In part" meaning less than a single percent. "Failure to stop" meaning a massive increase in border presence and fentanyl seizures.

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Instead of working with the United States

See above, we implemented border security measures to appease the charade of Fentanyl being an issue.

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there will be no Tariff if Canada, or companies within your Country, decide to build or manufacture product within the United States

Perfect! Let's just make ourselves the States' little bitch, completely reliant on them for everything and with no details on how much production we even have to move over so that he can just say we didn't fulfill our part of the bargain whenever he wants. Why wouldn't we do that? Jesus H Christ.

Canada charges extraordinary Tariffs to our Dairy Farmers — up to 400%

Two things, 1. tariffs to protect your local agriculture makes sense to not become reliant on other countries for food. 2. that "up to" is doing HEAVY lifting as those high rates are almost never in effect¹, so why do you even care. Oh right, you don't care! This is all a sham.

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[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago

So are we gonna get a TACO pool going... everyone bet which day Trump caves and winner takes all.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

Less trade with the US the better

Hopefully he actually follows through

[–] lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Bring it, bitch.

I will never visit the us again. i cancelled netflix, prime, apple music. i use crave, cbc gem, and qobuz now. i installed ubuntu on my old surface pro and it works beautifully. switched to libre office. my next phone will be a fairphone.

when i go to the grocery store, if an item i want is a product of the usa, i eat something else.

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago

I also cancelled and use the same services! Qobuz is pretty good, it has a lot of room to improve but it’s keeping me more up to date with music than Apple was.

I got Sync.com (Canadian) instead of iCloud (though iCloud is not fully replaceable). My backup server is in the EU because I use custom borg scripts, but there’s also eazyBackup in Canada.

I own my own domain for email, and I bought my wife one too so she can get off of Gmail.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

Legend. I had cancelled all that but then Telus came in and offered it for free. So technically I have it, but I'm not really paying for it.

[–] aeppelcyning@lemmy.ca 46 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Carney needs to grow a pair. I've had enough of him not saying anything. We voted for elbows up, not subservience. I'm still not clear what we got for the DST removal.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

I'm also an NDP voter that voted LPC over CPC. I knew we wouldn't get Value(s) Carney, but I do believe that if anyone is going to shift capitalism in a better direction it would be him.

As a former bouncer I completely disagree that silence is a sign of weakness or subservience. That's just good tact. Never argue with an idiot, they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Elbows Up doesn't mean you should draw a penalty. You're supposed to hit them hard and get away with it.

As far as the DST. I find it interesting that a tax we never collected is being framed as a loss we deserve compensation for.

A month ago I thought bills C-2 & C-5 were overreach, and their lack of oversight definitely is... I wrote several letters to that effect. But given the continuation of Trumps annexation rhetoric, I now recognize those bills were designed for a political environment that is still burgeoning.

Based on Trumps usage of ICE I believe it's inevitable that the USA will use domestic crossings to affect some form of hybrid war against Canada. Russia & China will certainly occupy northern Canada if we don't rapidly expand our national infrastructure.

These threats, I believe, do justify deprioritizing environmental concerns, to a degree.

I think the silver lining is that Carney's energy expansion in to oil/gas is not mutually exclusive with expanding renewable energy.

I also sold mortgages for a short time and saw the industry change more in 24 months than 24 years. I agree that the least harmful economic solution to housing is to freeze housing prices where they are until cost of living and supply normalize. The alternative of housing prices drop would have a net negative effect. The CMHC in 2014 & 15 made major changes to reduce Canadian borrowing power to avoid a post mortgage crisis of mass defaults like what we saw in the USA.

I think the world is too volatile right now to expect concrete plans that aren't heavily hedged. Carney is playing the game correctly by holding Canada's cards close and not telling his bluffs.

[–] teppa@piefed.ca 1 points 2 minutes ago* (last edited 1 minute ago)

Housing prices rose because we brought in 1.4 million people in a single year and tripled immigration, blaming capitalism for that seems a bit silly. Trying to implement price controls is great but how do you decide who gets the cheaper house, you've done nothing to improve the supply while the demand continues to increase.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 4 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

holding Canada's cards close and not telling his bluffs.

That's what the "just tell us what you're doing in the negotiations" crowd seems to miss.

It would be colossally stupid to put out a press release that tells the other players what cards you're holding, and what your planned strategy is.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 3 points 23 hours ago

Never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake.

  • Sun Tzu

Those people also don't appreciate that in the context of Trumps unpredictability no publicly made plans would remain unchanged.

[–] Arkouda@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I’m still not clear what we got for the DST removal.

The U.S. temporarily ended trade talks in late June over Canada’s digital services tax, but the federal government moved to drop the tax just days later and negotiations resumed.

[–] patatas@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, and apparently they include 35% tariffs across the board now. So the question remains, what did we get for dropping the DST?

[–] karlhungus@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 day ago

We got jack and shit, and jack left town (ref).

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[–] fourish@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago

We’re done with the US. let them Tax themselves into oblivion. We have closer friends now to trade with.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

"You will never be disappointed with the United States of America."

We're fucking disappointed. Every fucking year of this relationshit. You are an utter disappointment in nearly every way.

[–] Kyle_The_G@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

bring back DST and 3X it, fuck em.

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Add a “reciprocal” US services tax on top.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 day ago

Buy Canadian 💪🍁

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Meh. He'll change his mind at least 15 more times before Aug 1st.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Every 2 weeks, methinks...

2 weeks Trumpy time is either very short or never happens.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago

Cool, calm reciprocity. They Tarrif us, we Tarrif them where it hurts in equal measure.

For everything else, there are better trade partners.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

Trump is named in the Epstein files.

Trump cut NOAA and FEMA funding before flash flooding killed over 200 people in Texas including two dozen Christian girls.

[–] DetectiveNo64@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Someone needs to take out this pedophile president.

[–] KMAMURI@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Don't forget, multiple time felon.

[–] KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 day ago

Sure Donnie, now please go take your meds.

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Carney can't decide if he wants elbows up or not. In fact, he flipflops so much, he looks like hes doing the chicken dance.

[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

What are some examples? The DST is postponed as trade leverage which is still ongoing. I haven't seen him flop flop on anything yet, and he hasn't been PM for long enough to see how anything had played out. He seems very calculated and has been getting great results so far within Canada and internationally.

[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

No I think he knows exactly what he's doing and it has very little to do with anything Trump does, despite what he or anyone else says.

He's handing our money to corporations and butt fucking us in a much quieter way than PP would have, but he seems to be doing it very intentionally.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So fucken true!! Really disappointed in Carney so far. He’s not standing up to Trump, doing everything in secret, no updates. Paying American companies for military equipment (night vision), not cancelling the fighter jets order, begging the abuser to trade with us while we’re giving shit up left right and centre. Fuck this!! But PP and cons would not be better.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

doing everything in secret, no updates.

Do you think it would be beneficial for him to put out a press release saying what aces he has up his sleeve, what the plan is to counter Trump's next move, or any other parts of the negotiations?

Do you think the Americans won't love to learn those things?

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 1 points 21 hours ago

He should be making weekly statements to Canadians, I thought we were in an emergency or crisis and Carney get elected then clams TF up. Could be vague but he should be communicating with Canada and giving us a status update. Actually Carney should just fucking walk away.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He's a banker. He's on capitalism's side, not the people's.

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[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

I suppose you're right. It's irresponsible to let him plead stupidity for fleecing us, when it's all very calculated.

[–] shittydwarf@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago
[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Oh, no! Empty threats. What will the world do.

[–] KMAMURI@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

giv'er buddy, we don't want your shit or your business.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago
[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

More forest fire smoke down south then.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago

We need some fans on the border to blow it towards the US. Smoke turbines.