God I hope he knows he ended up on LinkedIn lunatics
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You think people like this have enough self-awareness to be ashamed?
Not inherently, but I'd hope that a public mocking would still cause a reaction
"We only hire slave labor here. You aren't nearly subservient enough for the honor."
Founder/CEO/Designer - Micro...
Unless that ends in "soft" you're a failure and you're trying to bring everyone else down with you.
If it is "soft", you're a known pedophile and you should be in prison.
We all know it's not MicroSoft but rather MicroPenis1
Every year, we do an employee survey to see how management is doing; like a report card for management. In the last 3 years, mine has come back with the highest company scores for employee engagement, job satisfaction, and project completion rate. I was asked to give a presentation to the other officers and managers about things I do to get those scores.
The presentation was basically one slide that I expanded to 10. It came down to creating the expectation, for the folks who report to me, that a work week is 37.5 hours (our full-time week) and no more. I make it clear that if my team is working overtime, I've failed. If that happens, together we look at their project commitments and reduce the workload, or get training, or whatever is needed.
Working folks to the point of burnout is NEVER a valid solution. Respecting personal time pays dividends to everyone. It's amazing how treating people like adults makes them happier and more productive. It's such a low bar and yet seems so foreign to people.
After my presentation, multiple execs argued thar I'd get more done if I pushed my team harder. Our company President pulled up all of our project completion rates, and asked them to explain the discrepancy. The three who complained the most about my approach were in the bottom five.
Data continually shows people are happy when they have a solid, predictable, work life balance. Happy people are more productive and are willing to do more in the long run. And they stick around, so you don't have to keep looking for new employees. Everyone wins. Yet, there is such a resistance to it by certain people, and I don't understand why.
Tldr: Expecting your people to give up their personal life for work, it's a clear sign that you are a terrible leader.
Yet, there is such a resistance to it by certain people, and I don’t understand why.
People are emotional driven. It might be something like "I worked 80 hour weeks. If I accept that that wasn't the right move, then I have to admit I fucked up. I'm a good smart person. I don't fuck up. Thus, this idea is wrong and I reject it"
I make it clear that if my team is working overtime, I've failed.
Bingo!
This was my attitude too. If anyone has to work late or weekends, it was a failure in resource allocation, which is a management function.
The only exception was if people had to get on late night calls with people in other timezones, in which case they were expected to take the equivalent time off at their own convenience.
Another easy win is bullshit agile daily standups. I made them twice a week, and no longer than 15 minutes and only to cover potential blockers, not status reports. That alone made everyone happier. In one case, the team finished a project that had been languishing for three years in three months and shipped it out.
It's really about respecting people's time.
I worked Bay Area tech as a dev for several years; the thing they are really really good at is manipulating young people (mostly men, really) into thinking that if they aren’t living work then they are bad people. All of your free time should be spend thinking about work, building things for work, “leveling up” your skills to be better at work. Family and friends are not important, only work. The gaslighting and emotional manipulation is cult-like.
I once had the founder of the startup I was working for tell me that he had no idea I cared about the company after I gave a presentation on how we could pivot our product to be more effective. He then asked how he could get more of my time for the company. I was working 60-80 hour weeks already.
I’m an EM now and those experiences shaped how I run my team: work is work, not your life. You do your work so that you can afford to do the things you actually care about, and that is how it should be.
Sounds exploitative because it is. Just because work is your entire personality doesn’t mean every one else’s should be too. Fucking tool
Recently read "Pimp" by Iceberg Slim, and it seems like a training manual for (some) modern managers and executives. Use your recruiting process to select low-esteem, easily manipulated people to be your worker drones, and they will do 80 hour weeks to earn that pizza party.
Dude, you're pulling 80 hour weeks for your company. That you own. Expecting the same input from people who will never see as much as a percentage of what you stand to make off of their success is delusional. But I suppose delusion is almost a requirement for these kind of people.
Personally theory.....
Many startups fail because people try to work 80+hrs per week. Biologically more than about 25-30 hours of work is usually a waste of time. You can occasionally pull a long week but then you need to rest and recover to get back to full productivity. If you push beyond it often, you'll make a shit ton of stupid mistakes that completely nullify all your efforts.
If you've ever been around someone "working" on hour 70+ during a week you'll know what I mean. A five minute tasks takes them an hour and they generally fuck it up.
"I work 80 hrs for my own business and I expect everyone else to do so...on a regular salary"
I'd only be willing to put in long hours for little pay at a startup if they agreed to give me shares in the company when I left.
Yeah they talk about equity but were they offering it to this position?
Also, fuck that dude regardless.
If you work 80+h and it doesn't feel like work, then maybe playing golf and eating out doesn't magically turn into work just because you write it off as work expenses.
"No no, you don't understand. You shouldn't have a family, you have to flog yourself to death for this startup company that's making a Gym Membership app. If you don't neglect your kids to vibe code a scheduling system then you just don't deserve a job and you and your family should just die"
I feel like anyone who says they love their work so much it doesn't feel like work just doesn't have an actual life that they like to live so work just beats out not working everytime.
Massive impact on the world. Lol. Says the guy who makes another SaaS bs solution.
I mean, the douchebag CEO isn't exactly wrong.
I myself very much want a good work-life balance, therefore I do not apply for jobs to be one of the first ten people working for a CEO that thinks they're going to change the world.
He did a big favor for that candidate by not hitting him.
It sounds exploitative because it is exploitative!
looking at the douchebags profile he's also a, surprise surprise, massive advocate for AI with a recent post stating that gpt5 is a "massive change for humanity"
He has the usual tech bro posts with the usual bootlicker middle managers commenting support. Christ on a cracker I wish I could close my linkedin account.
This is why it's important to be honest about your deal breakers from the employee perspective or at least subtly figure out their plan for employees at startups. I learned this the hard way recently by basically wasting 6 months at a startup, went well for a while, then 60-70+ hour work weeks, then my boss became overbearing.
They weren't honest from their side in the interview for most employees when they would ask about work life balance, the company always said it was great and well above average for the industry and startup environment.
Begin banana metaphor.
Bananas are great. If I ate a healthy amount of bananas a week, I'd be happy with my banana consumption. I'd enjoy bananas.
However, if I ate a lot of bananas each week, let's say 80 🍌/week (that's 16 bananas a day, from Monday to Friday!), I would HATE bananas, regardless of how much I previously enjoyed them. With so many bananas a week, I'd probably suffer from malnutrition and related health problems.
End banana metaphor.
I don't think it's possible to be happy when working 80+ hours a week, even if it's something you used to enjoy. "The dose makes the poison."
I don’t think it’s possible to be happy when working 80+ hours a week
I think there's a certain element of "do what you love and you'll never work a day in your life" in this.
If you're really deeply invested in a project and doing it brings you joy, then you very well might find yourself investing every waking moment working on it.
But that's not a "job", that's a "passion". You typically don't get to pursue your passions unless you already have a big passive income or a sugar daddy willing to cover your expenses.
"If you're not willing to sacrifice your mental and physical health for me, get out of my sight."
To be perfectly honest, if a CEO is truly working 80+ hours a week, you almost have to wonder where they would find the time to write walls of text to rejected candidates and to play around on social media.
Granted, I suspect a lot of higher level folks are like the ones I know, they're very generous with what they qualify as "working hours" for themselves. For instance, "I work 12 hour days" translates to I leave for work at 7 a.m. and I don't get home until 7 p.m." so basically they consider their travel to/from the office, the 2 hour lunch break + gym time, picking up kids after school, etc to be part of their working hours. Or if they're away from home for 3 days at a conference, that's 70+ hours of work right there.
And the thing is, I don't completely disagree with any of that, it's just that they tend to take the opposite stance when it comes to people actually doing the work. If you're not sitting in front of your computer or on the phone making calls, then you're not working. Your commute to/from work doesn't count. Your lunch break doesn't count. Your travel time to and from the conference doesn't count for your 38.5 hour minimum billable time for that week.
Oh look, a self-reporting issue
Sign up with this guy. Work nights and weekends for three years. Then he cashes out, you get 30.000 shares of worthless "stocks" and a severance notice becauser he decided to pivot . Repeat. Repeat. Repeat.
Yep, sounds like fun. :|