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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 87 points 1 month ago (4 children)

The fundamental flaw in his thinking here is that people who need assistance through no fault of their own are somehow less valuable.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago (4 children)

You could make the argument for a difference in value from a purely amoral standpoint, but even that argument for nonassistance to the needing falls apart under the reality that providing a basic standard of living to those who need it comes at such a small proportional cost to the 'productive' population that refusing it borders on absurdity, considering the social and economic costs of refusing to do so.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Another great example of this in the specific context of Elmo is his antagonistic stance towards all public transportation. Building out more is an economic value add but it’s a threat to his business model so he’ll always actively attempt to hinder it.

He’s the one guy everyone knew growing up whose dad “works for Nintendo” that somehow actually became successful; all of it built on a mountain of bullshit.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

He’s the one guy everyone knew growing up whose dad “works for Nintendo”

Everyone did not grow up knowing someone who lied about (or claimed to) "work for Nintendo".

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Maybe not that specific lie, but I’m sure you encountered some form of pathological liar growing up

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Well, yes.

PS. I'm pretty sure your name is RICK.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago

I've said for a long time, you can either fund education and social services or you can fund police and prisons, but one way or another the disadvantaged will cost something to be dealt with.

[–] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

providing a basic standard of living to those who need it comes at such a small proportional cost to the 'productive' population

Not to mention that in the vast majority, providing that support allows these people to find work in the first place, or to get a better job. This in turn results in more income and sales tax revenue, meaning that the initial investment is repaid.

This has been proven out over several different social assistance schemes, not just blanket UBI - though UBI is still the best option.

[–] Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

When the food wars hit, Elon is top of my list for oligarchs to consume. Look at him, bet his flesh is tender and marbled with fat.

[–] miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 month ago

So, he's talking genetics and societal roulette! Survival of the fittest* whites.

*fittest != healthwise
(prolly equates instead to $$)

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Or people that don’t share his actual chromosomes.

[–] MirthfulAlembic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Or that people who have the most wealth are more "productive". I'm not sure inheriting millions of dollars makes you more productive than someone working two jobs.

[–] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 37 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Truly the greatest good lies in robot cars that kill pedestrians.

[–] FlordaMan@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

It’s of great importance that we have an AI that will tell people lied about “white genocide” and we should obviously shift all resources to that from useless stuff like “affordable healthcare”.

[–] Draces@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

And sell carbon credits so they're not actually green

[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He is exactly that type of socialist.

The type that transfers from the most productive to the most exploitative.

National socialism.

[–] saimen@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago

For the american working people. Great name for the political party he wants to create. National Socialist American Workers' Party.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Party

(in case anyone doesn't know what Nazi actually means)

[–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Socialism is the science of dealing with the common weal. Communism is not Socialism. Marxism is not Socialism. The Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning. I shall take Socialism away from the Socialists. Socialism is an ancient Aryan, Germanic institution. Our German ancestors held certain lands in common. They cultivated the idea of the common weal. Marxism has no right to disguise itself as socialism. Socialism, unlike Marxism, does not repudiate private property. Unlike Marxism, it involves no negation of personality, and unlike Marxism, it is patriotic.

  • Hitler

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism

https://famous-trials.com/hitler/2529-1923-interview-with-adolf-hitler

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

You beat me to it. 😉

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

Funny thing is he's basically describing the True Levellers, who of course have nothing to do with Nazism.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

True socialism is already defined. No need to "learn it" from musk.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

"Funnel resources to meeeee."

[–] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Socialism understands that people are more important than productivity — something that no billionaire will ever understand.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm curious when elons tweet was originally posted. The more recent, the more ridiculous.

[–] brisk@aussie.zone 2 points 1 month ago

I remember this one, and it's pretty old, pre twitter takeover. I think it was around the time he called an emergency responder a pedo for bruising Musk's ego, maybe just before

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

Confusing utilitarianism with socialism. God damn this guy has to be the stupidest "smart" person I have ever seen.

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

Make nazis dead again.

[–] LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Always such a dog whistle when someone emphasizes the social part in NSDAP.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

World's richest capitalist, turning the most popular "town square" for the exchange of ideas, collaboration and unfiltered world news into a nazi haven and hate machine, crushing unions, buying his way into controlling politicians and government resources, siphoning public funds into his pocket, privatizing that which used to be publically held and regulated into black boxes of cutting quality with cost and exploiting human labor and dignity, and contributing nothing of value to society from his own mind or body except the occasional laugh like: "I'm actually a socialist."

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Read his tweet again and you can see that he thinks socialism means that you push money towards the “most productive”. Then you just gotta think about what he means by that and suddenly it makes perfect sense that he’s happy using public money to enrich himself because he, while in reality less than useless, believes himself to be a valuable super genius.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Socialism is the science of dealing with the common weal. Communism is not Socialism. Marxism is not Socialism. The Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning. I shall take Socialism away from the Socialists.

Socialism is an ancient Aryan, American institution. Our American ancestors held certain lands in common. They cultivated the idea of the common weal. Marxism has no right to disguise itself as socialism. Socialism, unlike Marxism, does not repudiate private property. Unlike Marxism, it involves no negation of personality, and unlike Marxism, it is patriotic.

We might have called ourselves the Liberal Party. We chose to call ourselves the National Socialists. We are not internationalists. Our socialism is national. We demand the fulfilment of the just claims of the productive classes by the state on the basis of race solidarity. To us state and race are one.

— Elon Musk

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Took me a minute, I was like “no way did this guy just say Aryan, American”

[–] Smeagol666@crazypeople.online 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I knew Elon was full of shit before it was cool. Before the Cyberdumpster came out, he claimed that they would be manufactured with the tight tolerance of plus or minus five microns. Either he had no clue what the fuck a micron is, or he thinks no one else does. As a machinist myself, most of the smaller parts I've made were plus or minus 15 or 20 microns. If you don't know, a micron is one millionth of a meter (or 0.039 thousandths of an inch in "freedom units").

Always an amoral clown with no substance, but I won't easily forget how online communities e-fellated him for years regardless...

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Time is a flat circle that only consists of around 100 years.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

He’s only for the taxpayers funding all of his grifts while using our money to bribe politicians to subjugate us as a thank you

[–] nkat2112@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Word.

Thank you for posting this, OP.