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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 68 points 1 month ago (6 children)

He was almost certainly a groyoer tho...

The term "Groyper" began circulating widely in 2019 during a public feud inside the conservative movement. That year, followers of Nick Fuentes disrupted college events hosted by Charlie Kirk and his group, Turning Point USA, accusing Kirk of watering down Donald Trump's message.

The clash, later referred to as the "Groyper Wars," drew national attention for its confrontational tactics and for pushing white nationalist ideas into more mainstream conservative circles.

Kirk responded by calling the Groypers extremists. He defended his approach to conservatism as inclusive, saying the movement should be open to people of all backgrounds and reject racism and homophobia.

https://www.newsweek.com/groyper-charlie-kirk-shooting-nick-fuentes-2129114

Kirk was just starting his "return tour", and the guy who shot him was a trump supporter.

The most likely explanation is he was a groyper

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 90 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Wow. Incorrect from top to bottom. Sit down kid, because I’m only going to explain this once:

His neck just did that.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nah he faked his death. Moved to Casablanca to apprentice as a bottom surgeon duh. He's rooming with Taylor Swift's wife.

[–] nocturne@slrpnk.net 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Are we sure he did not od on fentanyl? Have we seen the tox reports yet?

[–] PineRune@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I read somewhere that ruptured neck tubes are a symptom of fentanyl overdose.

[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They're a telltale sign of excited delirium.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Wow he lost an argument so bad he got excited delirium‽ We need to ban arguing on campuses

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 3 points 1 month ago

With a head this big it was just a matter of time.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

reject racism and homophobia

Sure, Jan

[–] Cypher@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

His last words were a racist dog whistle but anyone with an ounce of intelligence already knew Charlie Kirk was a lying piece of shit.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

He'd already said enough racist shit to make it quite obvious.

But at least he died doing what he loved, advocating for gun violence.

[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Wow I didn't know there was specific beef against Kirk to back it up. That's crazy

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

That sounds exactly like gang violence to me. It literally is always projection with these assholes

[–] TheYojimbo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (4 children)

As much as I would love this, what about the messages on the shells ? Weren't they clearly antifa ?

[–] Denjin@feddit.uk 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Other than TRN, what else was on the casings?

[–] Denjin@feddit.uk 4 points 1 month ago

If you're reading this you are GAY! Was one, there's articles that list what was found at the scene.

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Writing stupid shit on killing devices is a groyper signature thing. Cause why the fuck would you sign the goddamn crime things?

Same with Annunciation shooting as well. If you hear "they signed the casings" and the sayings aren't related to the victim (like the Thompson "Deny, Defend, Depose") then it's probably a groyper

[–] TheYojimbo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The ones that make me doubt are "hey fascist! CATCH!" and "O Bella ciao, Bella ciao, Bella ciao, Ciao, ciao". I mean I would love for him to be a neonazi, but this feels like wishful thinking...

[–] Tempus_Fugit@midwest.social 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)
[–] TheYojimbo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Ok thanks interesting !

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Hey fascist, catch", including the arrows that make up the rest of the quote, are a quote from Helldivers 2. Not exactly a smoking gun

[–] TheYojimbo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Ok, didn't know that. Thank you!

[–] Tempus_Fugit@midwest.social 5 points 1 month ago

Groypers deal in irony laden Internet meme speak. They've co-opted antifascist memes in an ironic way.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nope, 4chan memes and all stuff groypers say constantly

[–] TheYojimbo@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What about "hey fascist! CATCH!" and "O Bella ciao, Bella ciao, Bella ciao, Ciao, ciao" ?

[–] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hey fascist catch is a reference to hell divers 2. Bella ciao is a song on the groyper wars Spotify playlist

[–] TheYojimbo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Yes someone else told me the same thing, thank you I'm sold !

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

The most likely explanation is he was a groyper

Is it though? This is all ENTIRELY speculation and smells stinkily like more people trying to "disclaim" him from their "side" and everyone is doing it. It's the point of this post. Everyone saying everything else ALSO claims to have "most likely explanations" so it's all entirely speculation and bullshit until I hear verified evidence or an admission, until then you're all playing internet detective/Q-anoning/thread-linking/conspiracy cosplay.

[–] Jomega@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

I don't understand this alignment chart.

[–] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's fake. Everyone in the crowd was a crisis actor. Trump is going to use this to take our guns away.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The gun grabbing is strong in this one.

[–] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

remember when that guy shot up the crowd in Vegas with a bump stock? Trump banned bump stocks after that. Obama didn't ban any guns and neither did Biden. Trump did. MAGA and the GOP are the party of gun control.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

His neck just did that!

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Considering the right wing seems to have completely stopped talking about it (and ~~nancy pelosis~~ wrong person I think, the puppy shooting person(s) tweet) I can only assume he was a republican for them to all shut up all of a sudden.

[–] murvel@feddit.nu 4 points 1 month ago

This thread is now part of the meme

[–] Ghoulishlover@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago

"I'm the real shooter" made me lol

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world -4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I said basically the same thing earlier on Lemmy and got called a "both sider" so yeah, we're fucked, ya'll are deep in the gravy and need to not just touch grass, you all need to grow grass and dirty your hands in the beautiful topsoil and reconnect with the earth and your own brains.