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KYIV — U.S. President Donald Trump finally labeled Russia the aggressor in the war against Ukraine, further demonstrating a hardening of his position toward Moscow.

Referring to Ukrainian and Russian troop casualties, Trump told reporters Sunday: “8,000 soldiers have died this week, from both countries. Some more from Russia, but when you’re the aggressor, you lose more.”

Trump has previously refused to condemn Moscow for the invasion, with his administration siding with Russia and North Korea in February to reject a U.N. motion backing Ukraine’s territorial integrity and condemning Russia. The U.S also objected to a G7 statement calling Russia an aggressor in February. Trump has blamed Ukraine for the war, saying in April: “You don’t start a war against someone 20 times your size and then hope that people give you some missiles.”

But Trump’s stance toward the Kremlin has changed over the summer, with his administration exerting increasing pressure on Vladimir Putin as the Russian president stonewalls Trump’s efforts to broker direct peace talks with Ukraine’s Volodymyr Zelenskyy.

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[–] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 80 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

"further demonstrating a hardening of his position toward Moscow"

Lmao you STUPID FUCKS when will you STOP talking about this guy as if actions are calculated or savvy or something. He's not "strategizing" or "hardening his position" towards some big-picture outcome like a seasoned diplomat would, he's just spewing whatever enters his head at a given moment, from whatever thing happened to be in front of him in the last 24 hours

[–] Blackfeathr@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Exactly what I was going to say. The media is naive in thinking this man has a position or stance on anything.

[–] dalekcaan@feddit.nl 13 points 2 weeks ago

It's only naive if it's unintentional

[–] DarkSirrush@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago

More likely his brain is too muddled to remember whether he was supposed to say Ukraine or Russia and fucked up the order of his sentence

[–] bigfondue@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Donald Trump, in his trademark unconventional style, pooped his pants today.

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

They all think he's some 400 IQ super genius and he's just not lmao

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 76 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

He finally has enough liquid cash from crypto that he can pay off all the Russian loans. But I don't think he realizes that you are never really an "ex"-Russian Asset. Oh, and he should probably stay away from tea for a while....

[–] Talaraine@fedia.io 37 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Zer0_F0x@lemmy.world 55 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah I mean Linux is just better

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Lemmy should have a comment wizard that just presents this text as the first option.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This sounds a lot like windows behavior

[–] joelfromaus@aussie.zone 9 points 2 weeks ago

“Hi 👋 it looks like the comment you’re replying to mentions windows 👀 would you like me to compose a quick comment about Linux being better?

I run on Arch btw.”

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

He finally has enough liquid cash from crypto that he can pay off all the Russian loans.

I'm so tired of people thinking the man at the helm of the largest military and paramilitary force on the planet is terrified of a few Russian gangsters breaking his thumbs over loan money.

Nevermind that this fundamentally misunderstands their relationship (Trump was laundering money for the Russian [and Italian and probably a few other] mafiosi, not borrowing from them). It pretends that he's a schmuck who got in too deep with a couple of loan sharks, rather than the head of a white nationalist fascist coup within the halls of the US Government who has fallen in and out with a rival fascist dictatorship on the opposite side of the planet.

[–] parody@lemmings.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

From Adam Ragusea on conspiracy theories (from his blurred Pyrex video):

Reality is weird and often not as you would expect. That's why common sense only goes so far. It's good to be skeptical of the media you consume. That's awesome. Question things, absolutely. But don't go and just make up your own answers, as so many of us are prone to doing. It's fine to speculate responsibly about multiple different possible explanations for something that you're scrutinizing, but don't settle on one of those explanations until you have enough evidence to settle on it. Be open minded, in every sense. If someone is lying to you, you've gotta be careful not to invent another lie to replace it. Yeah, you outsmarted the liar, but that's all you did. You're still dumber than everyone who knows more than you.

Smart chef, Adam

[–] HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Now that I think about it... I wonder if his stroke was partially a result of his meeting with Putin....

"Never attribute to malice what can be explained by being 79 years old and obese."

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 2 weeks ago

and from underwears, but he only wears diapers anyway. they might lace his adderall and cocaine with novichik

[–] Procleus@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Day 238 of ending the conflict on day 1…

[–] alt_xa_23@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

He didn't say which 24 hours he'd end the war in (/s)

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

It's true, and neither did Putin specify which two weeks of which year that would be...

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Some more from Russia, but when you’re the aggressor, you lose more.”

No

A lot more from Russia, and not just only because it's the aggressor, but because it's playing meat grinder with its soldiers. It just keeps dumping the poor in the battlefield.

It WILL come back and haunt Russia for the next decades because no country can just lose well over a million young men lives without consequences

But having said that, Russia's tactics are just ludicrously stupid and basically consists of sending poor men to their death and hoping Ukraine can't kill them fast enough.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

One of the more interesting side effects of the meat grinder is that poor, rural areas of Russia are suddenly seeing problems with inflation because of the death payments to soldiers' families.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 2 weeks ago

he will never target muscovites, or st petersberg thats where his political power resides.

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

That's an interesting knock off effect. Makes sense in retrospect, but I wouldn't have predicted it.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

It WILL come back and haunt Russia for the next decades because no country can just lose well over a million young men lives without consequences

Basically what happened between Iran and Iraq in the late 80s. It broke both countries for a generation.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 16 points 2 weeks ago

Tomorrow he'll be back to blaming Zelensky.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 15 points 2 weeks ago

In other news, the National Weather Service has been reporting unseasonable temperatures in Hell.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The incursion into Poland was no idle threat; Putin has said Poland is next on its list.

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm genuinely curious how, though. They haven't even been able to take Ukraine.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I don't think the goal would be to actually conquer Poland same as they can't feasibly conquer entire Ukraine. What they would do would be:

  1. Large scale drone attacks on Polish infrastructure.
  2. Meat wave attacks on Polish positions to very slowly gain territory and displace population
  3. Destabilize industry and economy
  4. Force NATO to focus on defending their own position and limit support to Ukraine
  5. Hope to destabilize government and help elect pro-russian politicians (that will promise to end the war)
  6. Exacerbate internal divisions in UE and NATO (Hungary would refuse to assist NATO in any way and probably outright help Russia)

They don't have to win the war to extend their sphere of influence. It's enough to weaken EU.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Well I think they were banking on trump helping when he said that.

Hitler also famously started a two front war he couldn't win. Its not impossible the brain drain has gotten so far in russia they may convince themselves the first one is free like it was with crimea.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago

daddy putin's paycheck didn't come through?

fuck off lol, still a traitor to democracy

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

And he’ll change his tune again tomorrow.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 weeks ago

Must be the stroke.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 weeks ago

Talk's cheap, and no talk is cheaper than Trump's.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Lol.

'Softest US President the world has ever seen hardens his position on..."

Where are we on the hardness scale? Pudding? Have we finally made it to Jello?

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Where are we on the hardness scale? Pudding? Have we finally made it to Jello?

I think we might be at oversized bean-bag full of baby duck down feathers. It's still a far cry from pudding, though

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

I think you're at "messy diaper".

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

further demonstrating a hardening of his position toward Moscow.

What hardening? It's all talk and no action. That's not a hardening of position, that's the exact same position.

[–] manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I wish every american here a very merry enjoy the frontline trenches, I hear youll be home by christmas!

☠️

[–] Blackfeathr@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'll be in the gulag for wrongthink 👍

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 2 weeks ago

siberian gulag.

[–] philosloppy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

jokes on you, I'm too old to be drafted...they'll probably just send me to the prison farm to harvest strawberries

[–] Bonus@piefed.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

It was on the tip of his tongue all along.

[–] fittedsyllabi@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Fucking moron!